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*** Jihad in America ***
self ^ | 11/14/01 | self

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:50 PM PST by Jefferson Adams

I just got a copy of the 1995 video "Jihad in America" yesterday, from the WorldNetDaily site. I watched it last night.

While the video was made for PBS in 1995, it does have a brief update at the beginning, dealing with the WTC attack and other things that have transpired since 1995.

People, we are in a world of trouble. I STRONGLY urge you to get this video, ASAP. WorldNetDaily sells it, and you may be able to find it elsewhere. You really won't understand what the threat that we face is until you've seen it.

The Taliban isn't the problem. Osama bin Laden isn't the problem. True, they're pieces of the problem, but only pieces. The biggest part of the threat we face consists of the fact that there are thousands of active followers of Islam who want to destroy America FROM THE INSIDE, and they're primed and ready to go. This video includes scenes secretly taped at several radical Islam "events," where various leaders urged the people attending - and there were hundreds at each meeting - to kill, to shoot, that the "blood must flow, that limbs must be cut off," etc. Folks, these meetings didn't take place in Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia - they took place in Kansas, New Jersey, Florida, etc. These people are well established in American communities, and they've been preparing for several years now. Remember, this video was made in 1995.

One of the updates at the beginning of the video included the fact that a meeting was held in September of 2000 wherein several major players in America's defense community were called to Washington to take part in computer simulations to determine what the biggest threats are currently to America, and to see how they could be effectively dealt with. The result was that, essentially, China isn't the biggest threat. Russia isn't the biggest threat. The biggest threat is radical Islam. In fact, the video states that in 10 hours of computer simulation no sufficient answers for defense or deterrence were found that were adequate to keep America from suffering greatly and our lives as Americans from being permanently changed by attacks from radical Islam.

I came away from watching this video stunned - and thinking that these people are the equivalent of rabid dogs. If this isn't dealt with, right now, INSIDE AMERICA, we are going to lose this country. Rabid dogs are shot or otherwise killed, because they are, purely and simply, too dangerous to allow to live, as well as being incurable.

Between this extreme form of Islam and the rapid elimination of our rights as citizens under the guise of fighting terrorism, we are in a world of hurt right now, people.

I'm about as strict a Constitutionalist as you're likely to find. But we MUST do something about radical Islam before it destroys this country. I propose a constitutional amendment that removes many of the rights in the Bill of Rights FOR FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM ONLY until we can get a handle on this. The wholesale abrogation of the rights of ALL citizens that's being conducted right now by "our" federal government is extreme overkill - it should be limited to proponents of radical Islam, since they are, in actuality, the only real threat among the people living here. "Our" government is using Islamic terrorism as an excuse to clamp down on good American citizens, and that cannot and need not be accepted or tolerated. The "USA Patriot Act" should be limited to followers of Islam, as should all "terrorist" legislation and executive orders dealing with terrorism in the forseeable near future. There *IS* no threat from anybody else to this country, but the threat from radical Islam is EXTREME.

ALL followers of radical Islam should be deported from this country NOW. Period. Rounded up and sent away. Before their plan to destroy America bears more fruit. And NO Middle Eastern people should be granted visas of any type until this is all sorted out. If we don't take extreme measures like this, America is going to be destroyed.

Get the video. Order it NOW. You need to see what we're up against. It's a lot worse than you think.


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To: in the Arena
I'll bet the 10 hour simulation did not take into account the "red neck good old boy " - "50 million gun owners " dynamic. I'd like to see the simulation done again with that whoop a$$ factor added...

If it came down to guns vs. guns, I'd agree with you. But as I said above, your AR-15 / deer rifle isn't gonna do much against smallpox or a tactical nuke or two.

81 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:18 PM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: Go Gordon
Radical Islam is NOT a religion - it's a disease.

I wish you hadn't said that. Now we're gonna get social workers, shrinks and every socialist liberal politician telling us we need to educate them, reach out to them, understand them and help/treat them....Oh, thats right, Bill Clinton has already espoused this line of thinking. Nevermind.....

LOL < g > Sigh...

82 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:21 PM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: Jefferson Adams
Bumpage
83 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:21 PM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: Jefferson Adams
More bumpage
84 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:21 PM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: Rheo
Is this the film by Steve Emerson?

Yes. And the liberal-Muslim coalition has dutifully begun its demonization campaign against Mr. Emerson as a result.

85 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:34 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Jefferson Adams
Are we talking about two different things ? The CDC did a simulation of a disease outbreak originating in OKC. Your reference above made it sound like the Government did a simulation of an armed conflict which prompted the armed response posts.

If it's armed conflict, they lose, we know it and they know it.

What's the solution to the WMD scenario ? Deporation ? Preemptive strike ?

87 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:42 PM PST by in the Arena
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To: Jefferson Adams
"it should be limited to proponents of radical Islam, since they are, in actuality, the only real threat among the people living here."

You think so? Read these two posts then let me know if you still believe that, OK?

Anthrax blamed on US scientist (post 86)

Anthrax blamed on US scientist (post 55)

88 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:43 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Jefferson Adams
Bush use of “Palestine” was deliberate says Powell
"Palestine" entered the government's lexicon with President Bush's speech to the United Nations,
Secretary of State Colin Powell said Sunday, another sign of the U.S. commitment to an eventual
Palestinian state.
89 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:44 PM PST by It'salmosttolate
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To: in the Arena
What's the solution to the WMD scenario ? Deporation ? Preemptive strike ?

To answer your earlier question, this was not a CDC disease simulation. The simulation was apparently held for several defense-oriented people. WMD was not mentioned specifically, but apparently NO solution which prevented or successfully retaliated against a "jihad" situation was found. That was the scary part. NO solution.

90 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:46 PM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: Don Joe
You think so? Read these two posts then let me know if you still believe that, OK?

Just read them. The thing is, there are ALWAYS going to be wacked out Americans. But there aren't very many. On the other hand, there are THOUSANDS of radical Islamists. Millions, if you count world-wide. THEY are the real threat. The rest are just the same old wackos we've always had - they may someday do some damage, but it'll be minor compared to what the Jihadists can do, and it won't be coordinated.

91 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:54 PM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: It'salmosttolate
"Palestine" entered the government's lexicon with President Bush's speech to the United Nations, Secretary of State Colin Powell said Sunday, another sign of the U.S. commitment to an eventual Palestinian state.

Isn't that just special?

If Bush was truly a Good Guy, Powell would be long gone by now. Actually, he never would have been appointed.

92 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:55 PM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: Jefferson Adams
Do you have a link for this scenario ? Is it part of the Jihad in America video ? thanks, Jim
93 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:57 PM PST by in the Arena
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To: marlon
Blue Trail, Hamden! I heard that fellow shooters turned them in, too.
95 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:02 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: Timesink
Thanks for the link..good article....will be watching for the newest CAIR action alert.
96 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:02 PM PST by Rheo
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To: Jefferson Adams
"Just read them. The thing is, there are ALWAYS going to be wacked out Americans. But there aren't very many."

The thing is, the few of them that exist will work hand-in-hand with the islamics, and they'll (the domestic wackos) will be highly leveraged, because they won't stick out like sore thumbs. They'll easily slip in under the radar. Like the old WWII movies, where the guy in the foxhole calls out a question for the "American" to answer -- something an American would answer correctly, but a German who speaks flawless English would flub -- these guys, even though they're fifth columnists -- will know to give the right answers, in flawless English.

97 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:02 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Jefferson Adams
Thank you so much for the heads up!
98 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:34 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: DallasDeb; Don Myers
I just heard that the Muslims Institutes are claiming 7 million in the US, based on the census that did not even ask. Another institute (Chicago based?) placed the number at 1.5 to 1.8 Million.

Anyone else have that info? A huge difference in the numbers and a damning example of Islamic Leadership.

99 posted on 11/16/2001 2:58:31 PM PST by CyberCowboy777
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To: CyberCowboy777
I have have the numbers, but in the Muslim population in the US, there is a very good percentage for sleepers and terrorists.
100 posted on 11/16/2001 7:57:11 PM PST by Don Myers
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