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First They Stole the Election, Now They Are Stealing the Truth
demorats ^ | November 11, | losers n liars

Posted on 11/11/2001 7:07:57 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde

We waited for more than a year for 175,000 uncounted votes to be counted. Now the results are in, and the facts show that Al Gore won Florida.

But Republicans and the corporate media cannot allow the public to see the truth - that Gore won and Bush lost - because that would expose the Presidency of George W. Bush as illegitimate.

So the same people who helped Bush steal the Presidency are now trying to steal the Truth. This page is dedicated to exposing the monumental efforts by the media to distort the truth: that Al Gore won, and George Bush stole the Presidency with the help of Jeb Bush, Katherine Harris, the U.S. Supreme Court, and the TV networks.

This page is dedicated to exposing the monumental efforts by the media to distort the truth: that Al Gore won Florida, and George Bush stole the Presidency with the help of Jeb Bush, Katherine Harris, the U.S. Supreme Court, and the TV networks. In other words, the 2000 election was decided by criminal fraud, not by a democratic election. We have documented nearly 60 crimes by these officials on our Floridagate page.

Democrats.com has been covering the Theft of the Presidency in depth since November 8, 2000. For links to our complete coverage, visit Stolen Election 2000

Here are some of the lies that are dominating media coverage of the Florida recount.

Gore's Voters Were Stupid.....(true)

The Lie: This has been the dominant Republican argument since Election Day 2000. It's a simple argument, and a transparently racist one. It argues that since many of the overvotes and undervotes were cast in black precincts, the cause of these invalid votes was the presumed stupidity of black voters

The Truth: Gore's voters were just as smart as Bush's voters, but they voted with error-producing ballots on error-prone machines.

Ballot design was crucial. The counties with the highest error rates were those where the list of Presidential candidates spilled over into two columns (as in Palm Beach's infamous butterfly ballot) or two pages (as in Duval County's infamous "vote every page" ballot). After a year of study, the Miami Herald finally concluded that Ballot design caused most spoiled votes. What the Herald fails to point out is that these confusing ballot designs were illegal.

Error-checking systems were crucial. The lowest invalid vote rates were found in counties that checked each ballot for errors before accepting the ballot - counties using Optiscan equipment with precinct tabulation. The original error rate may have been just as high as in other counties, but voters in these counties were given a second chance to fix their errors. This equipment was found primarily in Republican counties with few black voters.

Working machines were crucial. In some precincts, the voting machines simply didn't work properly, although the law requires county officials to make sure they do. This occurred disproportionately in majority-black precincts

Gore's Lawyers Were Stupid...(I agree)

The Lie: This is the more sophisticated lie told by self-styled political insiders. The argument is that Gore's lawyers used the "wrong" arguments; if they had used the "right" arguments, they would have won.

The Truth: Gore's lawyers never had a chance to win the recount battle in court, because Republicans controlled the U.S. Supreme Court - as well as the Florida state legislature, and the ultimate arbiter of a dispute over electors, the U.S. Congress

Gore's lawyers followed a consistent strategy throughout Florida, namely to count every vote. In contrast, Bush's lawyers followed a cynical two-track strategy. In Republican areas, they fought to count every possible vote, whether legal or not. In Democratic areas, they fought to reject every possible vote, whether legal or not. Gore's lawyers should be credited with integrity, if nothing else.

Gore's lawyers publicly proposed a deal to Bush: to settle the dispute by recounting every vote in Florida. There was no provision in Florida law to do this, so it required agreement from Bush. James Baker rejected the proposal immediately

Gore's lawyers did win one huge victory: they persuaded the Florida Supreme Court to order a recount of 60,000 undervotes. Unfortunately, as election officials in nearly every county in Florida began counting, a narrow 5-4 Republican majority of the U.S. Supreme Court issued an emergency injunction to stop the recount, on the outrageous - and treasonous - theory that counting all of the votes would harm their fellow Republican, George W. Bush. This horrendous ruling was denounced by 673 law professors, and has been defended by none. Two days later, the same Republican majority declared the election over in a decision with no basis in law, as documented in bestselling books by Vincent Bugliosi and Alan Dershowitz.

Even if Gore's lawyers had persuaded the Supreme Court to allow a recount - and Gore had won that recount - Florida's Republican state legislature would have appointed pro-Bush electors. And any dispute over electors would have ended up in Congress, which was controlled at that moment by Republicans in both the Senate (Trent Lott) and the House (Tom DeLay) - the same folks whose unlimited partisanship led them to focus the nation's attention on Bill Clinton's sex life, while Osama Bin Laden was preparing his deadly attack on America.

It's Treasonous for the Media to Publish the Recount Results During a War

The Lie: This is simply the latest argument by Republicans to bury the truth, that Al Gore won Florida

The Truth: on numerous occasions, Bush has declared that the purpose of our war against terrorism is to defend democracy and freedom. How can we defend democracy if we don't practice it - by counting all of the votes?

Republicans have opposed any recount of Florida's votes since November 8

During the recount battle, Republicans led by James Baker insisted that all of the votes had been counted and recounted. In fact, 1.25 million votes were never recounted, in direct violation of Florida law, which requires a machine recount when the margin of victory is under .5%. Moreover, another 175,000 votes were never even counted once because they were rejected by vote-counting machines. Those are precisely the ballots that were counted by the Media Consortium, in their effort to find legal votes that should legally have been counted.

The Media Consortium was ready to publish their results the week after Sept. 11, but they postponed publication in order to avoid raising questions about Bush's legitimacy at a moment when the nation truly needed to unite

The overwhelming majority of Americans - including Democrats - rallied behind George W. Bush after the terrorist attack on Sept. 11. But Bush has discredited himself by using the unprecedent spirit of national unity to advance his right-wing agenda on tax cuts for the rich, eliminating civil liberties, and drilling for oil in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge.

The Problems Are All Fixed

The Lie: Florida Republicans claim to have fixed all of Florida's election problems with legislation passed in 2001.

The Truth: Election systems remain broken in Florida and all across America

Florida's new law left many problems untouched, including a felon purge system that illegally removed thousands of legal voters. Moreover, Florida's new law added a new form of "literacy test" that was outlawed by the Voting Rights Act, and is under review by the Justice Department

Many states have problems that are as serious as Florida's, if not worse. Democrats in Congress have introduced legislation to fix those problems, but Republicans refuse to consider these changes.

The Supreme Court's outrageous decision in Bush v. Gore continues to cast a shadow over all elections. The Court ruled that minor variations in vote-counting practices violate the "equal protection" clause of the Constitution, and can be used to invalidate an election. Since variations in vote-counting are the rule - not the exception - virtually all elections could be invalidated on this basis.

Americans Are "Over It"

The Lie: Ever since the Supreme Court appointed George W. Bush as President on December 12, 2000, Republicans have told Americans to "get over it." Obviously, this is not an attempt to persuade those who believe the election was stolen - it's an effort to silence them.

The Truth: Millions of Americans continue to believe the election was stolen

Florida Democrats are still furious. In June 2001, 1,500 donors attended the party's annual Jefferson-Jackson fund-raising dinner and contributed $750,000 - three times as much as the June 2000 dinner, which came in the midst of a presidential campaign and featured an appearance by candidate Al Gore

African-Americans are still furious. According to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, the NAACP has assigned paid personnel to each of the states to coordinate early registration and mobilization campaigns, while other groups have rounded up thousands of volunteers to educate voters, including teaching people how to use voting machines. The Sept. 11 attacks only heightened interest in politics and government, according to those who lead these drives.

Democratic activists are still furious. Less than 5% of Democrats.com members believe we should "get over it," while over 95% believe we should "investigate, prosecute, and defeat Republicans."

A USA Today/CNN/Gallup poll in July asked whether Bush won "fair and square." By 50%-48%, a majority of Americans said no. Over one quarter (26%) of the respondents did not accept Bush as a "legitimate" President

A Fox News poll in June found that 58% of Americans were still angry about how the votes for president were counted in Florida.

Americans Can't Do Anything About It

The Lie: Republicans succeeded in installing George W. Bush as President, despite the fact that he lost the election. Now they want to make sure they succeed in their crime, by preventing any investigation or prosecution of those responsible for the Theft of the Presidency.

The Truth: Americans do NOT have to accept the Theft of the Presidency.

Democrats.com has documented nearly 60 crimes committed by the Bush campaign, Jeb Bush, Katherine Harris, the U.S. Supreme Court, and the TV networks. We call these crimes Floridagate, and we believe they are even more serious than Watergate, because they resulted in the Theft of the Presidency. These crimes should be investigated, and those responsible should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law

Democrats.com has launched the Democracy in 2002 campaign to remind voters about the Stolen Election of 2000, and to channel the frustration felt by millions of Americans into a grassroots campaign to elect Democrats at all levels of government.

Join the discussion of the Florida recount in Democrats.community (registration required).


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To: classygreeneyedblonde
After a year of study, the Miami Herald finally concluded that Ballot design caused most spoiled votes. What the Herald fails to point out is that these confusing ballot designs were illegal.

WHOOPS! Just proved democrats are stupid. They designed the ballots.

41 posted on 11/11/2001 7:41:58 PM PST by Calpublican
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
they postponed publication in order to avoid raising questions about Bush's legitimacy at a moment when the nation truly needed to unite.

And the Dems have determined we Americans no longer need to unite?
The Dems have determined this is a good time to divide the country?
In the middle of a war?
This is the Dem view?
And we are supposed to be upset that Gore is not President, knowing he thinks like this?
Seems like we should be pretty relieved that Dems are not in charge.

42 posted on 11/11/2001 7:42:29 PM PST by mostlyundecided
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To: Deep_6
GW now enjoys 80% favorable popularity among democrats and republicans alike.

Bingo! That's why the Rats will try anything to get the numbers down.

43 posted on 11/11/2001 7:42:51 PM PST by barker
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To: Reaganesque
Tell the American People those Miltary Votes were thrown out by service people who are now putting their lifes on the line by Democratic lawyers that is the outrage!!!!
44 posted on 11/11/2001 7:44:42 PM PST by scooby321
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To: classygreeneyedblonde

45 posted on 11/11/2001 7:46:10 PM PST by ChadGore
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
Well Thanks Anyways!!
46 posted on 11/11/2001 7:46:50 PM PST by Justice
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To: brbethke
There's so much fraud to remember that you forgot St Louis keeping the polls open extra hours and their pre-recorded calls by Jesse Jackson.
47 posted on 11/11/2001 7:46:55 PM PST by barker
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
you all need to go to this site and see all the stuff they are sayin

I'd rather stay here. Much better class of people.

48 posted on 11/11/2001 7:46:57 PM PST by Calpublican
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
These people are seriously, mentally ill. The corrupt, criminal enterprise known as the Democratic party almost stole the election last year. Imagine, a small group of thugs almost hijacked not just an entire country, but the richest, most powerful country ever. It's astounding how close they came, before their own stupidity did them in. It would be foolish to think they'd quit, after having come so close. Vigilance is ever required.
49 posted on 11/11/2001 7:48:04 PM PST by fnord
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
This is the 8th, 9th & 10th time Bush has won!

As an offical "PB Co. Bush Observer",

whom Carol Roberts personally accused of "changing the rules after the election,"

I can say it was

only because the Bush team sent in the "A Team" (myself excluded) and had Governors, etc. as volunteer observers, etc.,

and Bush had the superior Legal argument and the better team and

that Bush's REAL margin was measurably greater than the numbers after RAT tampering and vote stealing in Broward Co. & Palm Beach County, indicate,

(e.g., the well-documented plot by Gore and Team Gore to steal the militry overseas ballots & disenfranchise large numbers of the military,

(while allowing several thousand Democat-voting FELONS to vote for Gore!!),

which disenfraNCHISEMENT OF THE MILITRY VOTE was partially successful)

that the election wasn't stolen by Gore.

50 posted on 11/11/2001 7:48:35 PM PST by FReethesheeples
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
A Fox News poll in June found that 58% of Americans were still angry about how the votes for president were counted in Florida.

Yeah, most of them are mad about how the Demonrats tried to disenfranchise servicemen and -women who put their lives on the line to defend America.

I pray that people won't forget what happened in Florida in 2000. I pray that people won't forget that Demonrats are lying, conniving, vicious, powerhungry skunks who tried to steal the Presidency from the man who won it fair and square, and tried to steal the right to vote from the Americans who deserve it most of all, those who are proud to wear the uniform of the United States military!

51 posted on 11/11/2001 7:49:08 PM PST by Campion
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To: Deep_6
TERRY MCAULIFFE, chairman of the Democratic National Committee: So the result is out today. Clearly it's muddled. ... I have consistently said, George Bush has been sworn in. We all support him. We support him now more than ever."

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-ballot-reaction-box1111nov11.story?coll=sns%2Dap%2Dnationworld%2Dheadlines

52 posted on 11/11/2001 7:49:21 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Justice
I see you got it
53 posted on 11/11/2001 7:51:20 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: hispanarepublicana
This is all I have to say. If all of the military ballots were counted with the same intense effort as they counted those under/over votes there would be no questions. Or as a matter of fact, that approximately 10,00 votes were lost due to the Big 3 TV networks prematurely calling the election for Gore. Enough said. GORE LOST THE ELECTION IT IS OVER.
54 posted on 11/11/2001 7:51:47 PM PST by wattsup
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To: ChadGore
lololol Thats what all dem rats do
55 posted on 11/11/2001 7:53:24 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
OK! President Bush:" Due to our elite press, we will have a new election next Tuesday. The office of President, as well as ALL Senate and House seats will be up for grabs. May the best man and woman(oh, yes!) win."

With the current popularity of a real President, it would be interesting to watch the Commie Dems say "NO!"

56 posted on 11/11/2001 7:54:20 PM PST by Mark
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To: brbethke
You got it right! I truly believe that had it not been for voter fraud, Bush would've carried the popular vote too. Question: Is anyone trying to do anything to prevent such massive voter fraud from happening again?
57 posted on 11/11/2001 7:55:53 PM PST by Samwise
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To: Calpublican
Also failed to say butterfly ballots used LEGALLY in Cook County,IL and many other places as they were used LEGALLY in PB Co,FL.

Also failed to say most of these little old ladies in PB who "cried" when they realized they may have voted for Pat B. are the same little old ladies who play 12 bingo cards in Hollywood and never miss a number.

Why am I bothering? It simply does not matter. We have already moved on and I'm tired of going forward into the past.

58 posted on 11/11/2001 7:56:42 PM PST by vaudine
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
They can squeal about their recount "figures" all they want but it does not matter. One thing that should be done, along with cleaning up the illegal immigration mess, is to repeal Motor Voter and then make sure that only real Americans vote. And just once. Scratch that, real LIVING Americans, and just once.

The Dems. have voter fraud down to a science. It needs to stop.

59 posted on 11/11/2001 7:58:31 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: Mark
They think that all this now about the election will drive is popularity down............not!!!!!
60 posted on 11/11/2001 7:58:42 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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