Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote

NY Times ^ | 11/12/01 | By FORD FESSENDEN and JOHN M. BRODER

[Terry Mross]

Man, I'd hate to see this done in every red state where idiots are allowed to vote. Can you imagine how many people punched Gore then wrote his name in, too? As for punching Gore......All in all, this is good news. Wonder what the spin will be...how can they condemn their own newspaper? Probably just ignore it.

[Rome2000]

But Mr. Gore chose not to challenge these ballots because many were from members of the military overseas, and Mr. Gore did not want to be accused of seeking to invalidate votes of men and women in uniform.

LOL!

Mr. Orwell, table for one!

[11th Earl of Mar]

The study, conducted over the last 10 months by a consortium of eight news organizations assisted by professional statisticians, examined numerous hypothetical ways of recounting the Florida ballots...

Democratic theory:

When you can't win the argument ON THE LAW, bring in some statisticians and talk about hypothetical ways you could have counted the ballots.

[xkaydet65]

Regarding the claim that Gore wins by 42 or 117 if all rejected ballots were hand counted, the under and over votes, I have a query. Did the consortium factor in the rejected military absentee ballots?

Apologies if this point was already raised.

[YaYa123]

"The media consortium included The Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Tribune Company, The Washington Post, The Associated Press, The St. Petersburg Times, The Palm Beach Post and CNN."

I wonder how much the consortium shelled out for this waste of time and money crap. They were so anxious to discredit President Bush, so anxious to validate Gore and look what they got....no bang for their buck...Bush won.

And the other winner is.....THE NATIONAL OPINION RESEARCH CENTER!!!

[T. P. Pole]

Amazing. They spend several thousand words commenting on this, yet they can only mention "the United States Supreme Court ruled in a 5-to-4 vote" and not the 7-2 vote. Even when they fall on the fence, they still lean way to the left.

[ChadGore]

[TheGrimReaper]

So, may I correctly infer that GWB is still President?
Good.
Let's move on.... without the damn whining!

[sarcastro]

Haven't there been, like, at least THREE other "final" recounts already? I'm not being sarcastic- I remember around March where there was one of these "Bush would have one", and then there was another one in the late Spring, then there was one from the Miami Herald. So, what gives here?

And when we the next "final" recount be?

[nicmarlo]

Let's move on . . .

Yes, let's move on...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

In addition, the review found statistical support for the complaints of many voters, particularly elderly Democrats in Palm Beach County, who said in interviews after the election that confusing ballot designs may have led them to spoil their ballots by voting for more than one candidate.

I guess we will have to go over the facts again.

Anybody that accidently spoiled their ballot could get a new one by simply asking so if they spoiled their ballot or soiled their pants, either way the crap's all on them.

[Nick Danger]

I would have replied to this thread sooner, but I fell out of my chair when I read the first sentence.

[aquawrench]

The democrats were bent on stealing the election and would have succeeded given time. There is no way the voting machine can create a dimpled chad. There was some chicanery going on down there.

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

But Mr. Gore chose not to challenge these ballots because many were from members of the military overseas, and Mr. Gore did not want to be accused of seeking to invalidate votes of men and women in uniform.

Not exactly true. They fought hard to invalidate those votes and some were invalidated.

In addition the Federal Law stated that all military ballots were valid as long as they were signed, FL law stated they had to be signed and postmarked.

Please God let this election go away.

[rintense]

This from the NY TIMES!?!?!?!?! Did someone check to see if they are playing hockey in Hell?

[Timesink]

Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote.

JUSTICES DID NOT CAST THE DECIDING VOTE.

The NEW YORK TIMES said this!!

WAAAAA-HOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Do the HAPPY DANCE!

[alethia]

Good grief -- even though our President won in the contested areas -- for the 6th, 7th, 8th time... -- these idiots continue on down the road to fantasy land stating that Gore could have "eked" out a victory if a statewide recount had been conducted with the same parameters...blah, blah, blah.

Heck -- they didn't even use the same parameters throughout the recount on a county to county basis. I suppose that anyone could possibly "eke" out a victory that way. I'll bet the buffoons who accidently stuffed about 5000-6000 ballots for Pat Buchanan instead of Al Gore are still kicking themselves. What was it -- I guess they punched the wrong hole. Too funny.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

If you recall BEFORE election night Drudge bragged how he would release VNS Poll data BEFORE the networks did.
Sure enough, before the 2nd time zone in FL closed he "announced" Gore won.
Then Fox, according to O'Reilly, was the 1st network to "announce" Gore won before the FL polls had closed.
On election night I was at a friends house while she was on the State of FL election return site,
it showed Bush ahead while Fox and everyone else said Gore won.
I wonder how many Bush votes were lost by the 2nd time zone due to Drudge, Fox etc.

[Timesink]

DUh threads:

BWAAAA? CNN announced Bush won!

Outrage! ALL major media outlets spin Bush win

Gore say [sic] Presidential Election of 2000 is Over

CNN.com HEADLINE: Bush Still Wins

[KQQL]

Matt Drudge is full of Crap !