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Warner wins VA
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Posted on 11/06/2001 5:27:44 PM PST by VaBthang4

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To: Chief Inspector Clouseau
Never underestimate the stupidity of the Maryland voter!
101 posted on 11/06/2001 8:18:42 PM PST by StockAyatollah
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To: liberal_freeper
That a boy, you just keep talking...especially in 2002 where we kick your asses once again in my state.
102 posted on 11/06/2001 8:23:18 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Rome2000

The GOP is concentrating on the survival of the USA, politics can wait until next year.The jackass party is concentrating on the survival of the jackass party

Well, on that point we fully agree. I'm very proud of Bush for putting politics in its proper place on the current priority list. That's refreshing.

And again, I'm not trying to be pessimistic, just trying to be realistic. The moral fiber of this nation has deteriorated into nothing. "Women's issues" when dealing with millions upon millions upon millions of women is nothing more than that all-important right to kill a baby. For the vast majority of such women, it's not even an issue that will ever be personally relevant to them, but still it's a make-or-break cause for them. No matter their intentions, and no matter how sincerely they may "believe" in the cause, the simple fact is that this is of course driven by pure evil.

And abortion is just one example of the madness that now rules the land. We're told homosexuality is just fine and dandy, but don't you dare think about injecting God into public policy. As the Bible warned, good has become evil and evil has become good. No need for me to keep listing the other issues; you know what they are as well as I.

In the end it all boils down to the fact that this nation was founded on Godly principles and reaped enormous blessings from God as a result. He has now been asked over and over and over to bug off and leave us alone. Being the Creator of free will that He is, I believe he's doing just that and will continue to do so. And the further He backs away, the less protection we have from the evil that seeks to destroy us. The line between good and evil has become so blurred and so jagged that (IMHO) even the professed Christian president that we currently have is in danger of exposing us to more evil. I fully believe that it's not his intention, but when I hear him speak over and over and over about the peaceful "real" nature of our enemies, when I hear him espouse a desire for a position in opposition to the security of Israel, I become very afraid. When I see how political correctness has crippled us to the point that we are positively unwilling to take logical steps to protect our citizens, I am troubled.

I just don't see it as pessimism. I try to look at the state of our union as objectively as possible, and I see no way for the country to continue on its current path and be able to resemble the great nation that it was for so very long.

Respectfully submitted for your consideration.

MM



103 posted on 11/06/2001 8:27:56 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: MississippiMan
Sadly, I agree. And it is due to the very reasons that Jefferson so direly warned us about. When you have such a high percentage of the populace who are ignorant, it feeds on itself and the socialists take over. I don't even know why we even bother to do them justice by calling them 'Democrats' anymore when they ARE SOCIALISTS plain and simple. But, we asked for it, now we got it.
104 posted on 11/06/2001 8:29:51 PM PST by smolensk
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To: christine11
"...I was hoping our country was moving to the right in the wake of the 2000 election and the most recent events. I thought the 'sheeple' were waking up! this is distressing, to say the least."

The sheeple are already being lulled back to sleep. The news reports mention that we're bombing some brown people again, while trying to find some elusive criminal. Z-z-z-z-z.

These losses are unfortunate, but this is an instance where there was democrat inertia. Don't expect the "Gore Zone" map to change significantly - unless some terrorist lights off a nuke or the equivalent on U.S. soil. Maybe, just maybe *then* the scales will fall from their eyes. Assuming they live through the attack.

105 posted on 11/06/2001 8:31:52 PM PST by Cloud William
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To: MississippiMan; Menmy38
Ping--you aren't the only pessimist around. :)
106 posted on 11/06/2001 8:54:01 PM PST by LibertyGirl77
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To: mike2right
Yep. I can hear my own new delegate now talking to the new carpetbagger: "You ain't from 'round here, are you boy?" Ahaha.

My asessment of Earley may well be off, but it was formed by listening to my neighbors, who are farmers and blue collar workers with long memories. The VAGOP should let Earley go. He won't change the minds of people in gravel road country. They already feel like they got burned by electing him AG.

Now, let's run that noveau riche carpetbagger back to wherever he's claiming to have come from this week.

107 posted on 11/07/2001 1:56:15 AM PST by Twodees
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To: KantianBurke
Gilmore needs to go. Period.

Gilmore is one of the few Republicans with any balls at all. He stood up to 'RATS & RINO's on taxes, donut eating state employed lay about leeches be darned. Why the VAGOP couldn't make a positive issue out of that, I'll never know. What bonehead ran the Earley and Katzen campaigns? Komrade Kaine used taxpayer money to send busloads of people to anti-2nd amendment marches. He approved the use of taxpayer funds to send a radical city council member with an arabic name on vacation to Jamaica. did the GOP make an issue out of that? Of course not. The Clintons pardoned terrorists; this could have been an issue before 9-11 by forcing Warner to either renounce the Clintons and alienate the base, or approve of the pardons which would have been suicide. Almost 50% voted for Earley and Katzen just because they aren't 'RATS and their sad excuses for campaigns couldn't turn a lousy 3% our way in the state that the Clintons could never carry? The 'RATS give us a gold mine full of dirt to throw at them, and we take no advantage of it at all.

Sleazeballs that they are, the Clintons are sharp politicians. The campaigning never stops with them. Will VAGOP learn a lesson from that and start immediately campaigning against Mark Warner for the next Senate race? I doubt it, since they don't have a clue how run a campaign when a race on.

108 posted on 11/07/2001 2:30:44 AM PST by putupon
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To: Twodees
The VAGOP should let Earley go.

I doubt that will be a problem. Jerry Kilgore is Virginia's new rising star and to go for any other statewide office Earley will have to line up behind Kilgore, Gilmore and supposedly (from a comment last night) even John Hager.

That may be a moot point. Unless John Warner retires next year - and currently he does not plan to - we don't have a "vacancy" for Earley to fill, and the GOP nod for Governor in 2005 will go to Kilgore.

109 posted on 11/07/2001 3:08:54 AM PST by Ward Smythe
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To: VaBthang4
issues2000.org mark warner
110 posted on 11/07/2001 5:01:22 AM PST by Jason_b
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To: irish guard
In addition, what makes you think bush is the guy that would matter.

Exactly. Bill Clinton is supposedly so popular and he endorsed Mark Green.

111 posted on 11/07/2001 5:12:31 AM PST by Howlin
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To: mike2right
Mistah Jawn will stay in the Senate until he wants to leave, unless he dies of old age in office, I'll bet. Anyway, conservatives need to come together now and get our legislators to mount a full scale, full time push for conservative legislation. An offense is going to be the best defense against what the media is going to try to do with Warner's election.

The legislature runs the state, not the governor. Our conservatives in the House need to be encouraged to attack now. Waiting until Warner dithers around and comes up with some kind of nonissue for the media to trumpet for him ain't going to get it this time. Let's build the fire under'em.

112 posted on 11/07/2001 5:12:36 AM PST by Twodees
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To: mike2right
I'm not from Virginia so not familiar with the details there. I do know as a former Jersey resident and still in touch there that Schundler did not receive the kind of support from the Administration in Washington you would have expected a candidate in an important race to receive. Schundler' campaign was handicapped by a lack of funds which the RNC should have helped alleviate. McGreevey was swimming in dough and ran commercials on TV continuously.

The liberal Republicans in Jersey apparently refused to support their party's candidate - once again, because he was conservative.

What confused me about Virginia was the fact that the NRA supported the Democrat. That indicated to me that the Democrat was more conservative than the Republican. What liberal supports gun rights? None I ever met.

The web site you referred me to indicates the Democrat is a chaemeleon like character who will say anything in order to get himself elected. If that is indeed the case, Virginians got stuck with a bad governor.

It just appears to me that Republicans are really their own worst enemy. True, they have to contend with a hostile media, well-entrenched urban political machines, hostile minority voters, and well-organized union opposition. But the fact remains that their basic political philosophies of strict constitutional interpretation, personal integrity, respect for human life and the right to self-defense and controlling th size of government are logical, morally correct, and more in keeping with the traditional valules and philosophies of our founding fathers.

They just seem to lack the zealousness that all of the aforementioned would seem to justify. Perhaps because they really don't support big government, they are not as comfortable as Democrats in operating in a political arena as are the Democrats.

113 posted on 11/07/2001 5:21:30 AM PST by ZULU
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To: bushfamfan
One explanation might be that Bush didn't win Virginia overwhelmingly. He only got 52% of the vote there in 2000.
114 posted on 11/07/2001 5:21:57 AM PST by mdwakeup
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To: jaz.357
Your Comment: #@*#!!"&*#!! and 0#@!!

I AGREE! At least the Republican Party maintained a majority in the State Legislature. However, W's No-show, the national Republican Party, the luke-warm NRA endorsement and even the squishy-conservativism of Earley himself led to this defeat.

I am VERY disappointed.

115 posted on 11/07/2001 5:34:00 AM PST by DoctorMichael
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To: ZULU
What confused me about Virginia was the fact that the NRA supported the Democrat.

That's not correct. They refused to endorse Earley, but gave him a grade of A- and Warner a grade C.

The web site you referred me to indicates the Democrat is a chaemeleon like character who will say anything in order to get himself elected. If that is indeed the case, Virginians got stuck with a bad governor.

There, you have it.

116 posted on 11/07/2001 5:46:13 AM PST by Ward Smythe
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To: Dane
Re#16 Thanks for your continuing optimism and levelheadedness. Plus, you are right. ;^)
117 posted on 11/07/2001 6:26:12 AM PST by eureka!
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To: RightOnline
This brief pretty much gives you the flavor of it all. Apparantly you missed out on the existence of WWII. Self-education would seem to be in order. BTW, you can spell it "corporatist" or "corpratist" - both spellings have been used over the last 70+ years for this variation on a theme.

Ralph Nader also fits within this framework.

http://www.banned-books.com/truth-seeker/1994archive/121_3/ts213l.html

 

Economic Fascism

by Thomas J. DiLorenzo


When most people hear the word "fascism" they naturally think of its ugly racism and anti-Semitism as practiced by the totalitarian regimes of Mussolini and Hitler. But there was also an economic policy component of fascism, known in Europe during the 1920s and '30s as "corporatism," that was an essential ingredient of economic totalitarianism as practiced by Mussolini and Hitler. So- called corporatism was adopted in Italy and Germany during the 1930s and was held up as a "model" by quite a few intellectuals and policy makers in the United States and Europe. A version of economic fascism was in fact adopted in the United States in the 1930s and survives to this day. In the United States these policies were not called "fascism" but "planned capitalism." The word fascism may no longer be politically acceptable, but its synonym "industrial policy" is as popular as ever.

118 posted on 11/07/2001 6:29:49 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Cloud William
The sheeple are already being lulled back to sleep

*sigh*

119 posted on 11/07/2001 6:57:51 AM PST by christine
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