Posted on 11/05/2001 2:25:45 AM PST by TaZ
But you do you have loads of militia movements in America.
http://highdesertmilitia.freeyellow.com/Index.htm
Tony
From the original NC Constitution of 1788:
17th. That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well regulated militia composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural and safe defence of a free state. That standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to Liberty, and therefore ought to be avoided, as far as the circumstances and protection of the community will admit; and that in all cases, the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by the civil power.From the modern NC Constitution:
Sec. 30. Militia and the right to bear arms. A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; and, as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty. they shall not be maintained, and the military shall be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power. Nothing herein shall justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons, or prevent the General Assembly from enacting penal statutes against that practice.
Note how the liberal politicians watered it down.
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
Section 2. The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states
Bill of rights
2. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
5. No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Federalist 29. Alexander Hamilton:
In times of insurrection, or invasion, it would be natural and proper that the militia of a neighboring State should be marched into another, to resist a common enemy, or to guard the republic against the violence of faction or sedition. This was frequently the case, in respect to the first object, in the course of the late war; and this mutual succor is, indeed, a principal end of our political association. If the power of affording it be placed under the direction of the Union, there will be no danger of a supine and listless inattention to the dangers of a neighbor, till its near approach had superadded the incitements of selfpreservation to the too feeble impulses of duty and sympathy.
Section 311, Title 10, United States Code
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all ablebodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are commissioned officers of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are:
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
In Dred Scott, the landmark decision on the status of black slaves, Chief Justice Taney listed the rights blacks would have if they were citizens.
"[If blacks were] entitled to the privileges and immunities of citizens... It would give to persons of the negro race, who were recognized as citizens in any one State of the Union, the right to enter every other State whenever they please, singly or in companies...; and it would give the full liberty of speech...; to hold meetings upon public affairs, and to keep and carry arms wherever they went."
And as such, I'm not sure why we being allowed to have personal weapons
But you can bet the Global Banking Elite don't want to piss us off, they want us to be a fruitful group of Surfs.
As I have often predicted on this forum over the years, no jack booted thugs will be kicking in our doors to confiscate our weapons. There will be no need. Eventually, AMMO will become unavailable. It will be rationed in miniscule amounts to registered gun owners for very limited sporting/hunting purposes. Without ammo, weapons are just hunks of metal. There will be no more need to confiscate them than to confiscate bowling balls. Isolated "turn in" laws such as the SKS fiasco in Soviet Kalifornia have been a test of willingness to comply. The results have encouraged them, I'm sure.
Government and media exascerbation of the current climate of fear, and our "war against terrorism" will do much to facilitate such legislation and a lot more. Note the numbers of fearful sheep even here who are willing to submit to anything for the illusion of "safety."
The militia is not alone in its demise. We have lost far more than that in the last century.
But don't count us out yet - we exist still - and in some places our membership is growing. The media has gone all out during Slick's terms to demonize us, and his holdovers are attempting to continue it to this day (anthrax). It won't work - we've been in this country from its' birth, and today's "progressives" are not going to take the patriotism out of the patriots. You know that - that same patriotism is why you are here just like so many others. Granted, our left leaning enemies are here as well to keep an eye on us, but they are more likely to be some of the political casualties in this new America than the patriot movement. Thank God!
I have been all over this country, and I can firmly say that the Governments and Police Agencies in most of this former Repubic look at the Militia as a Clear & Present Danger.
That is why so many, including the FBI, have announced that "Right-Wing Militia" types are a suspect in the current Anthrax threat. It is ridiculous, but they still forward their insane thoughts.
Moreover, para-military organizations (which includes Militias) are outright illegal in many states currently (e.g. New York, California, etc.)
My hope is to educate the unwashed masses, but I'm afraid they are too fat, dumb and happy.
The existance of people, committed and organized to resist tyranny is alive and well ... and growing. A lot of it has taken a different tact when it comes to preparation for serious, end-game resistance.
Many of those, and many others who don't load, have stored significant quantities of ammo against just this possibility.
A lot of those have cahed it.
Find "The Art of the Cache" by Travis McGee here on FR if you haven't already read it. Here's another critical component of how present thinking should (IMHO) evolve.
When and if the times comes (God forbid ... but unfortunately likely) there will be plenty of ammo to do what is necessary ... and that boils down to getting the supply from the ample quantities that do and will exit amongst the opposition.
FRegards.
Overblown rhetoric alert!
Please go read Robert Conquest's work before ever using the word "totalitarianism" again.
FR is full of empty rhetoric. You appear to be full of more than that.
The facts made in that essay is simple. Do not try and form large pyramid structures because they are the ones easily identified and destroyed. Instead, form small, indpendent units of your own where you make your own plans with those you trust without advertising it.
It is this course of action that scares those who would be overlords the most. It does so because the resources do not exist, indeed cannot exist, to ferret such a thing out ... even the draconian measures you imply would not ferret it out ... they would only cause it to increase dramatically.
So, I have no problem with the concept of leaderrless resistancce. In a nut shell, it is simply free and independent thought.
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