MAG: 12 U.S. DELTA MEMBERS WOUNDED ON RAID OF OMAR'S COMPLEX, THREE SERIOUSLY; PENTAGON RETHINKS

Drudge ^ | November 3, 2001 | Seymour Hersh via Drudge

[piasa]

So how did old Seymore find the guys to interview them?

[KellyAdmirer]

Errrrrr, if one of them had been killed in action, would Delta Force be staging a job action or something now? My goodness, you mean the Taliban forces were actually shooting back? I'm SHOCKED.

They need to include a class in the Delta Force "hard training" curriculum on the topic "Don't whine to reporters about your gripes after a tough mission."

[PISANO]

I believe NOTHING Hersch says. I have tomes of data on this commie, USA hating p...k, but I will refrain. Let's Roll!

[Dakotabound]

These guys have had a case of the ass since Mogadishu

I think they're gonna have a serious case of the a** over these damn "military men" speaking to the press about this stuff.

How encouraging to our enemy to read these things in our press. How "encouraging" to our country to read about conflicts within the military.

How "encouraging" to those in Delta Force to have it shouted from the rooftops that anyone in the military command had the sh*t scared outta them.

War ain't for sissies. Something doesn't work, shut up about it, reorganize and make it work. Get a clue.

[Dog Gone]

My BS-O-Meter is registering pretty high on this one.

[toddst]

I'll only believe this story when it comes from identified sources. This casts the leadership as not in effective command which I don't believe is the case. This also could be disinformation (far more likely, IMHO.)

[Red Jones]

Of course, it should go without saying that probably they didn't merely take 12 casualties, the majority of those casualties were fatalities I believe. It was reported elsewhere that 9 were dead in one incident. That same day GW gave the big public statement where he spoke as if there were a bunch of people who'd given their lives. He said it was 2 dead in a helo crash, but if you'd heard the way he was talking you'd have thought it was worse.

[JZoback]

Since, I have no military experience at all, I can't know what to say except:

This is war and sh*t happens. Don't let it happen too often.

Sounds like some general should learn a good lesson for being a little over-confident.

Oh' and fire each and every one of the Clinton's political panty waist appointees in the military.

That should solve about 95% of the problems.

[mad_as_he$$]

Well I believe there was a firefight.

I believe there is a bunch of dead towel heads.

I believe that nobody in the D-boys would talk to any reporter especially a commie one unless ordered to as a set-up for some reason.

Somilia 1000 dead Gomers and 18 KIA Rangers, 125 wounded. Seems like fair odds to me....

[SamAdams76]

Yeah, this has the ring of disinformation. Not that there aren't a bunch of useless generals running things. That will change however. Real shooting wars quickly separate the men from the boys. During peacetime, officers are promoted through office politics and ass-kissing. During wartime, officers are promoted through merit and battlefield experience. We will eventually have a battle-hardened, seasoned military again and it will happen sooner than you think.

[JZoback]

Seymour Hersh:

The guy who broke the story on Mia Lai in Vietnam.

Got to put the article in the right perspective. Sort of like Rush Limbaugh commenting on the DNC.

[garycooper]

In my most cynical times, this is what I think: we thought a few bombs in the heart of Kandahar, a Taliban internal revolt engineered by Pakistan's Intelligence Service and march by the Northern Alliance, and we win.

Why are we slowly tightening the noose? Is it our own incompetence?

[jwalsh07]

They need to include a class in the Delta Force "hard training" curriculum on the topic "Don't whine to reporters about your gripes after a tough mission."

Yeah right, you and Seymour Goebbels are gonna teach Delta how to be tough guys. LOL

[GOPJ]

Have you ever noticed that a beat cop doesn't get quoted in the average newspaper? Or if he does, it's not about anything controversial. There's a reason for this. The beat cop is NOT a public person and ethically can't be quoted. I want to know if the soldier quoted was a commander or a "beat soldier," it makes a difference.

[DouglasKC]

This is so stupid if true. It's like expecting Hitlers troops not to fight back and then whining about it when they do.

[Dog Gone]

Of course, it should go without saying that probably they didn't merely take 12 casualties, the majority of those casualties were fatalities I believe.

You're accusing Rumsfeld of lying.

[longtime_nyr]

It's not just Hirsh who has reported details about the failure of this raid. The story appeared in papers from India, Pakistan, and other Arab nations over a week ago. DEBKA, if you use them as a source, hinted at multiple American deaths. I've been wondering why none of this was reported by any American or London media. This is the first American story I've seen even giving any details.

[ecomcon]

It's always better to have a gauge. All I've got is an idiot light.