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Archbshp Sheen's Prophetic warning of 50 years ago: Mary and the Moslems; The Significance of Fatima
The Mindzenty Report, published by the Cardinal Mindzenty Foundation ^ | 11/1/01 | Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen

Posted on 11/02/2001 5:42:58 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

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1 posted on 11/02/2001 5:42:58 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: *Catholic_list; patent
As usual, Archbishop Sheen displays a keen insight that few of his contemporaries could match. Prophetic.
2 posted on 11/02/2001 5:45:20 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: proud2bRC
Excellent piece.

America sorely needs a prelate of his spirituality and stature today.

3 posted on 11/02/2001 5:53:38 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: father_elijah; Antoninus; aposiopetic; Salvation; ELS; nina0113; Steve0113; el_chupacabra...
Bumping. Let me know if you want on or off the list. Click my screen name for a description.

Thanks for posting this proud2bRC, I wanted too but its going to be a busy day.

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4 posted on 11/02/2001 5:59:04 AM PST by patent
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To: proud2bRC
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5 posted on 11/02/2001 5:59:39 AM PST by carpio
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To: proud2bRC
For those who want to donate money in response to 9/11 and the ongoing threat to our civilization by mohammedism, supporting Christian missionaries is an excellent idea.
6 posted on 11/02/2001 6:04:16 AM PST by Atticus
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To: carpio
This ad features Rathbone hawking Fatima Turkish cigarettes. Fatima cigarettes sponsored the radio show "Tales of Fatima," which aired in 1949 and starred Basil Rathbone. On the ad: "Basil Rathbone says: May I tell you why you'll like smoking the NEW Fatima? The name Fatima has stood for the Best in Cigarette Quality for 30 years. And now, I say the new Fatima is the best of long cigarettes. It's the long cigarette that I know you'll enjoy as much as I do. It's MY cigarette. Basil Rathbone".

Fatima was also the name of Mohammed's daughter. (As well as a brand of fags.)

7 posted on 11/02/2001 6:04:38 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: proud2bRC
"........ the daughter of Mohammed himself.

But after the death of Fatima, Mohammed wrote: Thou shalt be the most blessed of all the women in Paradise, after Mary.

In a variant of the text, Fatima is made to say, I surpass all the women, except Mary."

And what would Mohammed have to say about the treatment of his daughter in the current scheme of things in the Moslem world....

8 posted on 11/02/2001 6:08:32 AM PST by prognostigaator
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To: proud2bRC
Great post, thank you!
9 posted on 11/02/2001 6:15:02 AM PST by lodwick
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To: proud2bRC
Fatima happens to be my favorite Marian apparition. But I had no idea that Fatima was Mohammed's daughter's name. Wow.

Although the statesmen have not yet taken it into account, there is still grave danger that the temporal power of Islam may return and, with it, the menace that it may shake off a West which has ceased to be Christian, and affirm itself as a great anti-Christian world power.

Archbishop Sheen was a very wise man.

10 posted on 11/02/2001 6:18:31 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: proud2bRC
Such insight. But Mary won't have anything to do with it, IMHO. The Holy Spirit will be coming through and it will be Christ they see, not Mary. Praise God.
11 posted on 11/02/2001 6:20:01 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: proud2bRC; patent; Aquinasfan
Wow.

Thank you for posting this, and for the bump. I didn't know about the Muslim significance of Fatima.

As long as a heresy allows the heretic to better contemplate God from his unique vantage point, the heresy will persist. We do notice conversion of Muslims, not to Christianity, but to secularism. This secularization is seen, not incorrectly, by some Muslim thinkers as westernization, and we have this war on the Western civilization as a result. Why secularism brings a Muslim closer to God? Because it reminds him of the loving and forgiving nature of God, that smiles at our petty philistinism. This aspect of God is nearly completely hidden from view in Islam.

12 posted on 11/02/2001 6:23:56 AM PST by annalex
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To: Marysecretary
But Mary won't have anything to do with it, IMHO.

Ultimately, everything good comes from God. Even our cooperation with God's grace is a grace. That is constant Church teaching. But in a more proximate sense, and to use everyday language, we say that "Mary always leads us to Christ."

If you feel more comfortable with "The Holy Spirit, operating through Mary, leads us to Christ," that's perfectly OK. In fact, it is Catholic teaching.

13 posted on 11/02/2001 6:27:46 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: patent
Let me know if you want on or off the list.

Please add me to the list, thanks.

14 posted on 11/02/2001 6:33:19 AM PST by pbear8
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To: proud2bRC
"May Saint John Baptist protect Islam and all the people of Jordan" - John Paul II

"Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger has taken public exception to a statement by Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, who caused an uproar in Italy by saying that Western culture is superior to Islam. 'One cannot speak of the superiority of one culture over another, because history has shown that a society can change from one age to another,' the cardinal remarked, speaking to the Italian daily La Repubblica.

15 posted on 11/02/2001 6:34:04 AM PST by Bellarmine
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To: annalex
This aspect of God is nearly completely hidden from view in Islam.

I hope that the internet will open Islamic society to Christian teaching, even classical philosophy. I know someone who corresponds with Muslims in north Africa over the internet. He told me that they frequently say things like, "We don't have to believe these things?" The idea of freely accepting or rejecting specific religious doctrines is a strange idea to them.

Another obstacle to Muslim conversions is psychological. Because the Koran contains contradictory passages, and because the Koran is treated as the literal word of God, Koranic teachings must be accepted on blind faith, and in contradiction to natural reason. So Muslims must also overcome a lifetime practice of sublimating contradictions.

16 posted on 11/02/2001 6:35:40 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: patent
In theory, I agree with Archbishop Sheen that it should be at least possible to lead Moslems out of their wicked heresy by emphasising the singular importance of Our Lady even in the Koran.

But, the position of a Christian missionary in an Islamic country is very perilous -- almost as dangerous as it was to be a Jesuit in Elizabethan England. Unless the radical governments, such as Saudi Arabia's, are compelled to renounce Sharia, the prospect of conversion through preaching and disputation seems very remote.

There will never be any widespread conversion from Islam to Christianity for as long as the government can impose a death sentence for "apostasy." And, in the case of Saudi Arabia, that self-same government has the unquestioning support of the U.S. There is something brutally consistent that the U.S., where it is illegal to pray on public property, supports a regime that imposes a death penalty for conversion to Christianity.

And bin Laden calls us "Crusaders." It is to laugh.

17 posted on 11/02/2001 6:38:04 AM PST by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: proud2bRC
List, List? How do I get ON the list?
18 posted on 11/02/2001 6:45:55 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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To: proud2bRC
Powerful P E A C E! We have much to look forward to.

In the sense that she will not accept any devotion for herself, but will always bring anyone who is devoted to her, to her divine Son.

http://www.rosary.com
19 posted on 11/02/2001 6:51:46 AM PST by janee
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To: Aquinasfan
“Today we no longer understand ecumenism in the sense of a return, by which the others would ‘be converted’ and return to being ‘catholics.’ This was expressly abandoned by Vatican II.” - Cardinal Walter Kasper, Head of Pontifical Council for Christian Unity
20 posted on 11/02/2001 6:53:37 AM PST by Bellarmine
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