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Was it wrong to lead viewers to believe that the homosexual heroes were heterosexual?

Posted on 11/01/2001 4:34:14 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs

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Many mainstream news media have failed to report that some of the more prominent heroes of the Sept. 11 attacks were gay. The omissions lead readers to believe that these people were heterosexual.

How relevant is it for journalists to mention someone's sexual orientation in not only this story, but all stories? How does it affect the context of the story by reporting someone's sexual orientation?

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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Next thing we're going to learn is that they were Methodists!
141 posted on 11/05/2001 8:37:21 AM PST by TRY ONE
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To: NotTheDevil; baxter999; FUSSBALL; FormerLib; Manny Festo; erizona; Clint N. Suhks...
** "Yes, whenever you guys want to prove that there are hardly any of us at all you quote this type of figure." **


Actually, there were a number of percentages from several studies that were quoted by the press in message number 111:

"... a 1991 national survey of sexually active adults done by the National Opinion Research Center shows that 98.4% of adults were exclusively heterosexual. (Smith TW. “Adult Sexual Behavior in 1989.” Family Planning Perspectives 1991, 23: 104.)"

"... a 1994 National Health and Social Life Survey at the University of Chicago found that 2.8% of men and 1.4% of women identified themselves as homosexual or bisexual. (Vobejda B. “Survey Finds Most Adults Sexually Staid.” Washington Post, October 7, 1994, p. A-1.)"

"... A 1993 survey by the Battelle Human Affairs Research Centers found that only 1.1% of all Americans are exclusively homosexual. (Rensberger B. “How Many Men in US Are Gay?” Washington Post, April 17, 1993, p. A-1.)"


So please tell me -- what percentage of the population is homosexual? Do you believe it's 10 percent? More? Less?


** "Whenever you count child molesters, you use "homosexual" to include married men who consider themselves heterosexual but molest little boys." **

Could you provide some references please?

Speaking of child molesters, could you please explain why such a large number of homosexual publications are so obsessed with children? For example, see Reply #74 in the message thread Gay Couple Sues Mississippi in Adoption Flap [Free Republic]


** "As a matter of fact, by the definition above I wouldn't be counted..." **

The definintion you're citing is "1% of men consider themselves exclusively homosexual" -- is that correct? If so, are you saying that you aren't exclusively homosexual?


BTW, I'm sure you've been really busy and you might have forgotten about it, but could you please answer the question I asked you in

Reply #49 in the message thread Home Depot promotes the homosexual agenda [Free Republic]? Thanks

142 posted on 11/05/2001 11:54:30 AM PST by EdReform
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To: EdReform; sakic
The definintion you're citing is "1% of men consider themselves exclusively homosexual" -- is that correct? If so, are you saying that you aren't exclusively homosexual?

Remember that goofy study the pro-sodomites were harping on yesterday? It appears we have found one of those persons who has an occasional stray sexual impulse. sakic, operating in flat earth mode as usual, was trying to pretend that any particular sexual experience or stray impulse defined as person's sexual habits. Even Kinsey wasn't this one-dimensional.

Some people, even with professional credentials in commercial pornography, must lead very sheltered lives.

It seems that NotTheDevil has some real hostility toward non-sodomites. Can we then consider him to be "heterophobic"? If he occasionally makes derisive remarks about other sodomites or prefers to avoid their company generally, would he be a "homophobic homosexual"?
143 posted on 11/05/2001 5:51:28 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
What is this gay day..... hmmmmmmm
144 posted on 11/05/2001 5:54:00 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: EdReform
GW believes that he can be turned on by young boys and animals but that he's normal.
145 posted on 11/06/2001 5:33:32 AM PST by sakic
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To: sakic
That is a lie. But I still say that man may erperience an unanticipated sexual desire. And that doesn't necessarily mean anything about his character.

You're still trying to drag others down to your level. The difference is that you are a professional pornographer and I recognize that people may experience an unwanted or unexpected sexual attraction.

There is a world of difference between these two things. BTW, just because the thread was pulled doesn't mean that I dont' have a copy of it. I can re-post my comments to repudiate your lies about me.
146 posted on 11/06/2001 5:51:53 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Abn1508; Steven W.
re : ONe of the three guys who is known to have been involved in attacking the hijackers (Bingham, the rugby player) was gay. He was part of an all-gay rugby team.

You play Rugby in America

Tony

147 posted on 11/06/2001 5:56:12 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: sakic; George W. Bush
Your statement is ludicrous
149 posted on 11/06/2001 7:11:44 AM PST by EdReform
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To: George W. Bush
I can re-post my comments to repudiate your lies about me.

Go ahead and post them in their entirety. Whoever's lying between us can leave FR and never return.

150 posted on 11/06/2001 8:49:57 AM PST by sakic
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To: EdReform
GW wrote the statements so I agree he is ludicrous. And sick.
151 posted on 11/06/2001 8:51:04 AM PST by sakic
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To: sakic
And you're a pornographer who considers himself a moralist.

The hypotheticals I posed don't renotely compare to your wretched profession.

I wonder if JimRob knows you're a professional pornographer in the hardcore porn industry.
152 posted on 11/06/2001 10:29:09 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
You always come across as a 3rd grader: "I'm going to run and tell Mr. Robinson about you".

OOOOOH!!!!!!!!!!!

First of all, as I stated earlier, I used to edit porno films 20 years ago but in your need to justify your own admissions that you could be turned on by young boys or animals you have to try and smear me.

Secondly, and far more importantly, I await what you promised you'd post. If you won't it will be further evidence of you're being a liar. Someone as moral as yourself shouldn't be breaking one of the Commandments.

153 posted on 11/06/2001 11:25:27 AM PST by sakic
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To: sakic
First of all, as I stated earlier, I used to edit porno films 20 years ago but in your need to justify your own admissions that you could be turned on by young boys or animals you have to try and smear me.

Once a pornographer, always a pornographer. I consider you no differently than if you'd been one of Hitler's unrepentant concentration camp guards or an unrepentant abortionist. Or an unrepentant pornographer. Which you are.

Secondly, and far more importantly, I await what you promised you'd post. If you won't it will be further evidence of you're being a liar. Someone as moral as yourself shouldn't be breaking one of the Commandments.

That thread was pulled. Undoubtedly you or someone else hit the Abuse button on it. I'm considering whether I should repost it. You might like to hit Abuse and destroy this valuable thread as well.

In addition, I can bring half a dozen witnesses who read all those posts and will verify that I never said I was turned on by children or animals. I merely said that a man may have an unexpected or immoral sexual reaction and that does not determine his character or behavior or sexual orientation.

Regardless of your ongoing attempts to slander me for posing a valid hyposthetical, your actual past in the lurid porn industry is part of your past and stands as an indictment against you.

You are an admitted pornographer.
154 posted on 11/06/2001 12:07:14 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: FUSSBALL
Homosexuals make up 10% of the population.

That number came from the Kinsey report and has been refuted. The correct number is closer to 2%.

Shalom.

155 posted on 11/06/2001 12:11:50 PM PST by ArGee
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To: George W. Bush; sakic
Why not just post the two paragraphs where you go into detail talking about your erections.

If you don't -- I will.

156 posted on 11/06/2001 12:46:17 PM PST by 2020x100
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To: ArGee
""Homosexuals make up 10% of the population.

"That number came from the Kinsey report and has been refuted. The correct number is closer to 2%.

Please see Post #138

157 posted on 11/06/2001 12:48:40 PM PST by 2020x100
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To: George W. Bush
I consider you no differently than if you'd been one of Hitler's unrepentant concentration camp guards

My father was in 3 concentration camps and lost everyone in his family besides one brother. My mother is the sole survivor from her entire family. I only wish you could have said what you just did to my face so as to receive my reaction in person.

158 posted on 11/06/2001 12:50:42 PM PST by sakic
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Unless the person is a hero due to his or her sexual exploits I do not see how there sexual orientation is relevent.
159 posted on 11/06/2001 12:54:22 PM PST by eFudd
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To: 2020x100
You mean the part about elderly British actors on a sitcom? Go ahead. Or the hypotheticals I posted? Go ahead.

You two are so desperate. It's laughable.
160 posted on 11/06/2001 4:23:29 PM PST by George W. Bush
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