We can portray our media no more foolishly than they portray themselves through such a stupid debate.

A very apt comment.

Beyond that, I would only say this. If someone does something heroic, and we are grateful for the deed, the very last thing that we should feel a need to expose--if it is not necessary in reporting the brave deed--is something despicable about the individual. It shows how warped are the judgments of some people today, both in and out of the media, that this debate would in fact take place.

Let the sins of the dead be buried with them! In kindness, let us remember the redeeming act, and let the rest rest.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

Don't bother with Manny...

You see, ManFest here only knows how to spam threads with pages and pages of lies and easily refuted disinformation. "He's" already been outed by many very objective and reasoned people here, and yet he still persists.

Spam Spam Spam. He never really responds --except in hyperlinked tabloid regurgitations.

Truly -- I think ManFest is just a bot.

If one of these heroes was into group sex, would it be relevant?

The relevance of information is irrelevant when you have an agenda.

---max

maybe we should affix a title/specification to every act we do or word we utter. That way we can shove our sexuality even moreso, into the public domain.

snorkeler hetro

INTERVIEWER:
And you ran into the building and pulled the victims to safety? INTERVIEWEE:
Yup I did! INTERVIEWER:
Are you Queer?

What agenda would that be?

I've read in various publications, including the Washington Times, that no scientically-conducted study on the subject has ever shown more than 1.5 to 2 percent of the human population to be actively homosexual. The 10% lie comes from "Dr." Kinsey's studies using large numbers of prison inmates as subjects. Its been used without question by leftists, just like the many inflated numbers of gun-related deaths the media tries to brainwash the public with.

Further investigation reveals some interesting data.

SNIP:

Prevalence of Homosexuality

Brief Summary of U.S. Studies (Compiled 6/99)

This summary sheet is not intended to be a comparative analysis or recommendation of the studies referenced. Its purpose is to respond to inquiries received by the Institute by indicating the range of findings in the research literature, beginning with Alfred Kinsey's two studies, often referred to together as the Kinsey Reports.

Studies often differ sharply in: 1) definitions; 2) methodology; 3) response rates. The majority are based on nonrandom samples. Some look at current/previous year behavior only and others at extended time periods in respondents' lives. They are listed in chronological order.

Contents

1948 and 1953 Studies of Alfred Kinsey (and Reanalyses of Kinsey Data)
Later Surveys
Reviews of the Literature
Sources

The 1948 and 1953 Studies of Alfred Kinsey

Kinsey's samples are best for younger adults, particularly the college-educated; they are poorest for minorities and those from lower socioeconomic and educational levels. The original male sample included institutionalized men. Paul Gebhard (Gebhard 1979), a Kinsey research associate and later director of the Institute, described Kinsey's sampling method as "quota sampling accompanied by opportunistic collection" (p. 26). Kinsey's data came from in-depth, face-to-face interviews (with 5300 white males and 5940 white females providing almost all of the data).

Sexual Behavior in the Human Male (1948) and Sexual Behavior in the Human Female (1953) reported that:

37% of males and 13% of females had at least some overt homosexual experience to orgasm;
10% of males were more or less exclusively homosexual and 8% of males were exclusively homosexual for at least three years between the ages of 16 and 55. For females, Kinsey reported a range of 2-6% for more or less exclusively homosexual experience/response.
4% of males and 1-3% of females had been exclusively homosexual after the onset of adolescence up to the time of the interview.
Kinsey devised a classification scheme to measure sexual orientation. It is commonly known as the Kinsey Scale

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Reanalyses of Alfred Kinsey's Data

In the Final Report and Background Papers of the National Institute of Mental Health's Task Force on Homosexuality (Gebhard 1972), Gebhard reanalyzed Kinsey's data to eliminate sample bias. His refined figures showed that between one-quarter and one-third of adult white males with college education had had an "overt homosexual experience since puberty" (mostly in the adolescent years); weighting by marital status, he estimated that 4% of the white college-educated males and between 1-2% (and closer to 1%) of white females were predominantly or exclusively homosexual.

In The Kinsey Data, Gebhard and Johnson (1979) reexamined the amount of homosexual experience in Kinsey's basic sample of noninstitutionalized males and females. They found 9.9% of the males in the College Sample had extensive homosexual experience. 3.7% of females had extensive homosexual experience.

Tabulations by Gebhard (McWhirter 1990) on Kinsey's basic sample of noninstitutionalized males and females indicated that "13.95% of males and 4.25% of females, or a combined average of 9.13%" had had either "extensive" or "more than incidental" homosexual experience. These figures were not weighted by marital status.

John Gagnon and William Simon (1973) also reanalyzed Kinsey's data, focusing on the college sample. In their tabulations, 30% of males reported a homosexual experience to orgasm for the male or his partner; of this group, 25% had the experience(s) as adolescents or had only isolated experiences before the age of 20. The remaining 5-6% broke down evenly, with 3% having had "substantial homosexual histories" and 3% having had "exclusively homosexual histories." The comparable figure for females having had a homosexual experience was 6%. Of these, 4% had experience limited to adolescence or scattered experience before the age of 20, leaving 2% with significant adult homosexual experience, and less than 1% with exclusively homosexual histories."

The link provided above cites at least a dozen other surveys from a variety of sources.

"sicced"?

Hehe...no, have you?