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A message from Robert Redford (Barf alert)
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Posted on 10/31/2001 8:22:51 PM PST by Randjuke

Dear Friend, It is understandable that we Americans feel an almost reflexive need for unanimity in trying times like these. As a nation, we are rightly consumed with responding to the terrorist attacks on September 11th. But, at some point -- and I think we're beginning to get there -- we need to take a long-term view even as we are reacting to the current crisis. Really important domestic issues facing us before all of this happened -- education, energy and the environment, health care -- still have the same dimension and consequence. But we have to recognize that it's much more difficult to discuss and debate them in the aftermath of Sept. 11th. Unfortunately, disagreement is sometimes characterized as unpatriotic during times such as these and open, thoughtful discourse is somewhat muted. The gravity of the current situation is not lost on any of us and we all want to do what's right to insure our national security. It is with this in mind that I felt compelled to write you today.

A handful of determined U.S. senators, encouraged by the White House, are arguing that national security requires the Senate to rush a pro-oil energy bill into law. They have vowed to hold up normal Senate business and attach the bill to every piece of legislation that comes to the Senate floor. So far they have failed in what The Boston Globe is calling "oil opportunism." But with President Bush, himself, now calling for rushed passage of this disastrous bill, intense pressure is building on Senate leaders to succumb to the emotions of the moment.

Using our national tragedy as an opportunity to advance the narrow interests of the oil lobby would not be in the best interest of the public. This bill, already passed by the House, would not only open the Arctic Refuge to oil rigs, it would also pave the way for energy companies to exploit and destroy pristine areas of Greater Yellowstone and other gems of our natural heritage. As important, it would do nothing to address energy security.

I'm asking for your immediate help in stopping this legislation. After reading my letter I hope you'll take action at http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic and then forward this letter to your friends and colleagues.

Last spring, the Bush administration and some members of Congress said we had to pass the president's oil-friendly energy bill because we were facing the most serious energy crisis since 1973. But here we are, a mere six months later, and the energy crisis has vanished. Due to a slowing economy and falling demand, the prices for gasoline, natural gas and home heating oil have plunged. Meanwhile, the much-feared "summer of blackouts" in California never happened, largely because consumers and businesses made dramatic cuts in energy use by launching the most successful statewide conservation campaign in history.

With no energy crisis to scare us with, the administration and pro-oil senators are now promoting their "Drill the Arctic" plan under the guise of national security and energy independence. Don't buy it. It would take ten years to bring Arctic oil to market, and when it arrives it would never equal more than two percent -- a mere drop in the bucket -- of all the oil we consume each year. Our nation simply doesn't have enough oil to drill our way to energy independence or even to affect world oil prices.

We possess a mere 3 percent of the world's oil reserves, but we consume fully 25 percent of the world's oil supply. We could drill the Arctic Refuge, Greater Yellowstone, and every other wildland in America and we'd still be importing oil, still be paying worldwide prices for domestic oil, and still be vulnerable to wild gyrations in price and supply. As The Atlanta Constitution put it: "Burning through our tiny oil supply faster will not make our country more secure." I'd go further: increasing our dependence on oil, whether that oil comes from the Persian Gulf or the Arctic Refuge, practically guarantees national *insecurity*. And we know that it will bring more habitat destruction, more oil spills, more air pollution, and more global warming. The public health implications will be devastating.

If our nation wants to declare energy independence, then we have no choice but to reduce our appetite for oil. There's no other way. We need to rely on smarter and cleaner ways to power our economy. We have the technology right now to increase fuel economy standards to 40 miles per gallon. If we phased in that standard by 2012 we'd save 15 times more oil than the Arctic Refuge is likely to produce over 50 years. We could also give tax rebates for existing hybrid gas-electric vehicles that get as much as 60 mpg. We could invest in public transit. We could launch an "Apollo Project" to bring fuel cells and hydrogen fuel down to earth, allowing us to begin the mass production of vehicles that emit only water as a by-product. The list goes on and on.

In this climate of national trauma and war, it is up to us -- the people -- to ensure that reason prevails and our natural heritage survives intact. The preservation of irreplaceable wildlands like the Arctic Refuge and Greater Yellowstone is a core American value. I have never been more appreciative of the wisdom of that value than during these past few weeks. When we are filled with grief and unanswerable questions it is often nature that we turn to for refuge and comfort. In the sanctuary of a forest or the vastness of the desert or the silence of a grassland, we can touch a timeless force larger than ourselves and our all-too-human problems. This is where the healing begins. Those who would sell out this natural heritage -- this spiritual heritage -- would destroy a wellspring of American strength. What's worse, their rush to exploit the wildness that feeds our souls won't do a thing to solve our energy problems.

There are plenty of sensible and patriotic ways to guarantee our nation's energy security, but destroying the Arctic Refuge is not one of them. Please tell that to your senators. They urgently need to hear it because the pressure is on to move this pro-oil bill to a vote in the next few weeks. It will take you only a minute to send them an electronic message from NRDC's SaveBioGems website.

Go to http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic

And please forward this message to your family and friends. Millions of Americans need to know about this cynical attempt to promote the interests of energy companies at the expense of everyone else.

Sincerely yours, Robert Redford


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To: Randjuke
You know what is funny...?

He really put some thought into that crap!

LOL...

Great "actor"....piss poor "Man".

21 posted on 10/31/2001 9:33:27 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: Cobra64
hahahahaha........He can go live there for all I care.He should be more worried about our national security and safety and keeping us a free country then if kids are being taught a rewritten liberal history and passing kids that can't read.Keep us FREE, and safe then we can make sure the chidren that are alive can read .
22 posted on 10/31/2001 9:34:50 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Randjuke
Hey Redford tell your sob story to Hanoi Jane, aka Taliban Jane
Wicked Witch of the West: Hanoi Jane Exposed in New Book
23 posted on 10/31/2001 11:11:30 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Randjuke; JoeEveryman; mcollins; Sloth; My Favorite Headache; US_MilitaryRules; Nam Vet...
Here's some contact information I dug up with a little research.

Sundance Institute
P.O. Box 3630
Salt Lake City, UT 84110
FAX: 801-575-5175
e-mail: institute@sundance.org

Worth a try: rredford@sundance.org

Redford's movie production company:

Wildwood Enterprises Inc.
1101 Montana Ave., Suite E
Santa Monica, CA 90403
310-395-5155 phone
310-395-3975 fax

24 posted on 10/31/2001 11:33:27 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Thanks for all this. That was a lot of work to get this together.
25 posted on 10/31/2001 11:47:34 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Randjuke
Maybe Redford has other beliefs that are no good, but I don't see any of them in this eamil. Why supporting the oil industry is "patriotic" and developing other fuels is "commie" is beyond me. It's US scientists and companies that are working on these technologies, not Cuban ones.
26 posted on 11/01/2001 12:05:32 AM PST by garycooper
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Good research- thanks for the effort. I'll never again have anything to do with anything at all from Redford... he almost singlehandedly was responsible for this abomination:

The Utah Coal Lockup: A trillion dollar Lippo payoff?
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/lippo.htm

Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument: Conservation and ...
Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument: Conservation
and Controversy. Petrified Woody's ...
Description: "This million-plus acre area needs protection from uncontrolled development, but at what cost?...

-``Behind Closed Doors: The Abuse of Trust And Discretion In The Establishment Of The Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument.''--

-Four Years Later, Locals Still Decry Clinton Monument --

-Coalgate--that ugly Lippo-Klink-Redford connection to tyranny--

-Clinton's Utah deal not justified-WND story--

Energy and Mineral Resources, Grand Staircase - Escalante ...
Utah Geological Survey. ... A Preliminary Assessment of Energy and Mineral Resources
within the Grand Staircase - Escalante National Monument. ...

No one person should have that much influence on policy- and he got it via "celeb" status.

27 posted on 11/01/2001 1:23:38 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Randjuke
If our nation wants to declare energy independence, then we have no choice but to reduce our appetite for oil. There's no other way.

What about the hundred's of wells that are STILL capped here in Texas?


28 posted on 11/01/2001 1:32:58 AM PST by Bad~Rodeo
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To: Randjuke
"...thoughtful discourse is somewhat muted..."

Translation: My positions are being challenged. I cannot handle that.

"It is with this in mind that I felt compelled to write you today."

From the back seat of my gas guzzling limosine.

"...the much-feared "summer of blackouts" in California never happened, largely because consumers and businesses made dramatic cuts in energy use by launching the most successful statewide conservation campaign in history."

Lies Lies Lies...

"The public health implications will be devastating."

Classic elitist, socialist "scare 'em" tactic.

There are so many quotes to clip...every word is nothing but TRASH!

BOYCOTT HOLLYWOOD!

Take away their money and they will lose their access to power. It's up to all of us. If you continue to spend money in support of Hollywood, then you should not complain about these people...because you are feeding them.

29 posted on 11/01/2001 1:49:12 AM PST by NewLand
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To: Snow Bunny
>>hahahahahaa..... he is good looking, talented and is brain challenged. haahahahaaha

don't forget *blonde*

31 posted on 11/01/2001 1:59:40 AM PST by fone
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To: Randjuke
From the far right...

Now I'm no tree-hugger by any means, but this fiscal conservative sees some valid points in the arguement.

What has happened to the energy problem that was about to bring a national security crisis?

We all know (or should know) that the whole Middle East headache is because of our dependance on foreign oil...maybe this what Washington meant by foreign entanglements??

This is why the USS Liberty coverup happened...we've been kissing the Arab world's arse for too long now, while we pretend to be an ally to Isreal.

What about the sheer reality of the finite fossil fuel supply? What are we going to do when it's gone...realitively soon? We need to start finding an alternative.

How much corporate welfare is in this bill anyway...does anyone know? Friends, does anyone have anything more than ad hominem attacks on this subject? Let's have some constructive discussion on it at least!

32 posted on 11/01/2001 2:21:14 AM PST by Verax
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To: Randjuke
Why is it that once these H'wood a-holes get a bunch of money for play-acting, they decide they need to teach the rest of us how to run our lives?

Hey, Robert, Barbra, Warren, Rosie, Oprah.......

SUCK EGGS

33 posted on 11/01/2001 2:31:21 AM PST by JimVT
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To: garycooper; backhoe
Gary Cooper: See Backhoe's efforts in Post #27 (right below yours).

Great research and posting efforts, Backhoe!

34 posted on 11/01/2001 7:43:03 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Randjuke
Wait...a missive from the genius Robert Redford!

Just give me a chance to load my printer with toilet paper so that this can be given all the respect it deserves.

35 posted on 11/01/2001 7:52:28 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Randjuke
It's so funny that you should post this. Just yesterday I received one of his catalogs in the mail. The front leaf of it had the same liberal bs that we've been hearing for years. The gist of it was "we have to work even harder to defeat those dastardly Republicans that want to kill all the puppies in the world and make you drink dirty water." I told dh that I was going to sit down and write a scathing letter to him about his policies and his catalog, which I did not request.

Hmmmmm, should I point out about all the trees he is wasing sending catalogs to poor saps like me that don't want to support his causes, nor want to pay exhorbitant prices for his merchandise?

36 posted on 11/01/2001 7:54:04 AM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: Randjuke
Never forget that Mr. Redford does not practice what he preaches. He made his pile of cash, and ripped up the environment in the name of profit, then settled into his extreme environmentalism.

Provo Canyon, in Utah County, Utah, is one of the prettiest spots in the entire world. Rock walls, waterfalls, mountains, sprawling stands of pines, wandering moose, deer, and so on, make it a place of breath-taking beauty. Well, Mr. Redford decided to bring in the bulldozers and construction teams and turn it into a ski resort and "artists colony". In other words, Provo Canyon, once a place of pristine beauty is now just loaded with buildings, cement trails, parking lots, and rich tourists from out of state.

So let Mr. Redford whine all he wants. His actions do not match his words.

37 posted on 11/01/2001 8:05:27 AM PST by Scourge of God
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To: Snow Bunny
No problem. Research is my specialty :-).

The Sundance info was relatively easy to find, but the Wildwood contact only crossed my radar screen after I read an article or two mentioning it as his production company and then put two and two together and did some more googling.

38 posted on 11/01/2001 9:12:30 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Aggie Mama
Just yesterday I received one of his catalogs in the mail.

Which one, just out of curiosity?

I told dh that I was going to sit down and write a scathing letter to him about his policies and his catalog, which I did not request.

Yes, good for you! Go for it! While you're at it, post the mailing address here for all to write back as well.

Hmmmmm, should I point out about all the trees he is wasing sending catalogs to poor saps like me that don't want to support his causes, nor want to pay exhorbitant prices for his merchandise?

Oh yes. That would make for a very effective closing statement! You might also want to call the Rush Limbaugh show. He'd get a REAL kick out of this for sure. E-mail Rush if you can't get through on the caller line.

39 posted on 11/01/2001 9:17:16 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Thanks googling is great.
40 posted on 11/01/2001 9:37:36 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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