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B52 carpet bombing 'can oust Taliban'
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 11/01/2001 | Alan Philps and Michael Smith

Posted on 10/31/2001 4:00:53 PM PST by Pokey78

AMERICA intensified its attacks on Taliban front-line positions yesterday, launching the first raids by giant B52 bombers north of Kabul.

A payload of bombs from a B52 blots out Taliban positions on Tutakhan Hill, north of Kabul

The appearance of B52s cheered anti-Taliban commanders, who have spent the past week deriding American "pin pricks", and raised their hopes that the enemy positions might at last collapse. As a B52 barrelled across the sky, its four vapour trails clearly visible, the whole landscape appeared to shake.

It sent down one salvo of bombs, setting off a series of at least 15 explosions over a distance of half a mile, before returning for a second attack. Previous air raids on the strategic sector of the Taliban front line guarding the approaches to Kabul have been carried out by smaller fighter-bombers which release one or two bombs at a time.

The attacks continued throughout the day, and commanders said that it was the most intense since America began bombing the front line on Oct 17. "This is the most successful day so far," said Alou Zeki, commander of a sector of the front to the west of the Soviet-built Bagram air base. "If it continues like this, the front line will collapse and the Taliban can be defeated."

The intensified bombing was apparently in response to criticism from congressmen that America was not making enough use of its military clout. The B52 Stratofortress was used in the bombing of Cambodia, to destroy Iraq's Republican Guard during the Gulf war and against Yugoslav troops in Kosovo.

It was used against Taliban and al-Qa'eda bases in the early part of the campaign, but until now has not attacked Taliban front-line troops. The Pentagon indicated that additional US forces would move into Central Asia over the next few weeks from where they could attack targets in northern Afghanistan.

Several thousand troops, including Green Berets, have been in southern Uzbekistan for some weeks. Independent observers in northern Afghanistan have said that US F-15 Strike Eagle aircraft attacking Taliban front lines have flown off towards Uzbekistan.

The admission that more assets would be moved into the former Soviet republic came after a visit by Gen Tommy Franks, commander-in-chief of US Central Command, who is running the US campaign. US defence sources in the Uzbek capital, Tashkent, said a number of countries were providing "concrete, solid assistance to the war on terrorism" but were not prepared to acknowledge this publicly.

Charles Heyman, editor of Jane's World Armies, said the movement of further assets to Uzbekistan came amid signs that the Americans were preparing to set up a forward operations base in northern Afghanistan as a prelude to a ground invasion in the spring.

Yesterday's raids have long been sought by the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance to make up for their weakness in men, materiel and strategic location, as the Taliban control high ground on the approaches to Kabul. Northern Alliance officials have said repeatedly that three days of carpet bombing of the front lines would open the way to the capital.

But Alou Zeki was careful not to say when the march on the capital might begin. "I am glad they are bombing the troop concentrations, where there are no civilians to be killed," he said. "This is really weakening the Taliban." After the B52 raid, the whole front line - which can be silent for days - burst into life, with exchanges of mortar and machine gun fire.

There was a new buzz in the bazaars of the opposition territory that the phoney war might be drawing to a close. The streets seemed more warlike as soldiers adopted winter camouflage. There were reports that Russia was providing armour to boost the Northern Alliance's inventory. But no tanks have been seen crossing the icy pass through the Hindu Kush.

There has been great disappointment on the opposition side - and equal relief among the Taliban - that the American front-line raids have so far been relatively restrained. Reports from Taliban-controlled areas suggest that the militia are constantly on the move to avoid being hit.

Anti-Taliban commanders say they see signs of the enemy creeping back to their bases at night. But the air campaign has yet to deliver a blow that would persuade the Taliban that the balance of forces has turned against them.


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To: wimpycat
......."how much more intense it can get,"

MUCH

We have a generation of military & political Leaders who span Korea to Kosovo.

These people are NOT (TRUST ME) stupid or unaware of History.

"W" is NOT stupid (contrary to the LOUD opinions of the 'Libs).

The "Media" are being kept WAY behind the "Power Curve" on this one (again, "Trust Me,") &,I suspect, for good reason ("loose lips sink ships,").

Patience is required (I Hope)!

If I'm wrong, I expect flames of Biblical Proportions in a couple of weeks--but I STILL BELIEVE "The Adults are in Charge!"

Doc

41 posted on 10/31/2001 5:23:18 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: Pokey78
"The intensified bombing was apparently in response to criticism from congressmen that America was not making enough use of its military clout"

I think this is so, and it brings up the question:
If Congressmen had not complained how little would the DOD be doing?
What are we paying these guys to do, if not to break things and kill people?

42 posted on 10/31/2001 5:23:23 PM PST by APBaer
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To: Incorrigible
Thanks, but it didn't help. I saved it though. I have a .bmp pic of a B-52 w/ all its ordinance laid out and a snappy banner I thought everyone would get a kick out of. I captured it w/ "Snagit" and saved it in a file. I could send it to you in a email and maybe you can post it.
43 posted on 10/31/2001 5:25:44 PM PST by Russ7
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To: Doc On The Bay
Oh, I agree with you 100%, make no mistake about it. The adults are definitely in charge, they know what they're doing and they're not telling the half of what they are doing and what they know. I have complete faith in our military and Bush and his administration.
44 posted on 10/31/2001 5:28:38 PM PST by wimpycat
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To: Windy-Dave
Hope you don't mind if I drop these off here do you?!?!?! Open up and say AHHHHH!!!!
45 posted on 10/31/2001 5:29:01 PM PST by thermodynamics
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To: PianoMan
AVI Video Clip of B52 Dropping Bombs over Vietnam (2MB)
46 posted on 10/31/2001 5:31:40 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Pokey78
The B-52 Bomber roaring down the runway fully loaded with ordinance With all (8) Eight engines in full water injection is a sight that will be with me for as long as I live. The power that that machine generates on the ground during run up is truly a lifelong experience to have in your hands and will turn Tim The Toolman green with envy!

Doing acceptance checks and final trim checks on that machine is so awe inspiring that I can remember every time I crawled under those wings or sat at the controls. To feel that machine straining on the chocks I can attest to the magnificence of the design and engineering that went into producing this Airborne Platform. The following models that came later on after the "D" model just got stronger and faster. The Old Buff gets my vote and its just as impressive when it pulled up under our KC-135 to get a Drink! Those are real Heroes!; in this War or any War!

47 posted on 10/31/2001 5:34:59 PM PST by Windy-Dave
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To: Russ7
Is that the one that says "the terrorists have won the coin toss and have elected to receive?"
48 posted on 10/31/2001 5:36:23 PM PST by piasa
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To: Blueflag
a BUFF can hold a lot more than 15 iron bombs

Yes it can, but this one made two passes. Still not a full bomb load, even with the decreased load the -H model can carry verses the old -D and -G models (-H's could carry more but would need the special external racks). I suspect the target wasn't big enough to justify dropping a full load all at once, since you have a minimum linear dispersal that you can't decrease.

49 posted on 10/31/2001 5:38:16 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Pokey78
"If it continues like this, the front line will collapse and the Taliban can be defeated."

Read this as "After you kill them all, so it's safe us, we'll quit squatting in the dirt and go take their positions."

Can't really blame them though, what with Powell telling them they won't be running things when this is over.

50 posted on 10/31/2001 5:40:58 PM PST by Bill Rice
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To: piasa
YES!!!!!! Do you have it? Roll it out if you have it....please.
51 posted on 10/31/2001 5:41:53 PM PST by Russ7
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To: Pokey78
From what I've always heard, if we carpet bombed the front lines day-in and day-out, not only would the terrorist Talibunnies fill their diapers daily, but the Northern Alliance would also develop a severe case of the Reno shuffles. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
52 posted on 10/31/2001 5:42:16 PM PST by Gumption
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To: piasa
Is that the one that says "the terrorists have won the coin toss and have elected to receive?"

This one?


53 posted on 10/31/2001 5:43:43 PM PST by El Gato
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To: El Gato
BTW, that is a -H model. They can't carry all those goodies at the same though. Too bad isn't it? :)
54 posted on 10/31/2001 5:45:03 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Russ7
I was just about to post this too.

You don't need Snagit, just right click on the image and then left click "save..." on the mouse menu. You'll save some disk space that way and get a better image too.

55 posted on 10/31/2001 5:50:06 PM PST by Incorrigible
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To: Pokey78


56 posted on 10/31/2001 5:57:54 PM PST by Nick Danger
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To: Incorrigible
I love it ... but check that spelling: Afghanistan.
57 posted on 10/31/2001 6:01:38 PM PST by mrustow
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To: El Gato
El Gato.....You da MAN!! That's the pic I was trying to post. Thanks.
58 posted on 10/31/2001 6:01:43 PM PST by Russ7
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To: Incorrigible
Truly outstanding!
59 posted on 10/31/2001 6:02:09 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Pokey78
Carpet bombing? Naaaa. Lets send ole Col. Kong in one more time.

Hey Osama! Say hello to Allah!! Yahoooooooooo!!!!!

60 posted on 10/31/2001 6:05:53 PM PST by mc5cents
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