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To: ErnBatavia
It would be really hard to find a hard number but I've spoken to several eye witnesses who have said the ground was littered with bodies.
2 posted on
10/31/2001 3:20:30 PM PST by
jbemis
To: ErnBatavia
I think it was about a dozen. They also seem to want to suppress that gruesome picture of all those poor souls sticking their heads out of the windows. People also made it to the roof and were awaiting helicopter evacuation. Poor people!!! Also, exactly how many children were killed. There had to be day care centers in the WTC, right, or children in the restaurant? For victory & freedom!!!
To: ErnBatavia
I have no idea how many poor souls jumped.
Our PC media is covering this up as frantically as they are covering up the photos of the dead bodies.
To: ErnBatavia
my guess is that there were over 20 ... I watched at least three or four and I know they were jumping for some time (20-30 mins) there.
7 posted on
10/31/2001 3:26:55 PM PST by
Steven W.
To: ErnBatavia
The horrific attack is quite horrible enough without obsessing on the gruesome and truly gut-wrenching way in which some of ours died.
14 posted on
10/31/2001 3:31:20 PM PST by
Osinski
To: ErnBatavia
I remember hearing this once, and ony once, since that fateful day. The beloved police/fire chaplain that was killed in the towers was hit by a jumper. Has anyone else heard that?
To: ErnBatavia
If it's any comfort (and it probably isn't) no less an authority than the Pope ruled that jumping from a burning tower was not suicide. I don't have the details but this dates back to the middle ages.
To: ErnBatavia
September 12, 2001 New York Daily News, page 10:
"High in the sky, the most horrifying drama of all began to unfold. Trapped by searing smoke and flames, desperate people started to plunge off the top floors of the towers, some flailing as they went. 'They were jumping out of the windows,' said janitor Nancy Joyner. 'They were just jumping and jumping and jumping'. Construction worker Edwin Moore watched in horror as a man tried to shimmy down the outside of the tower. He made it about three floors before flipping backward to the ground."
I remember hearing someone on the news that day saying that they saw a couple of dozen people jump, so I think the real number is probably many more than 20. I have the feeling that we will never know.
To: ErnBatavia
It doesn't matter. 6,000 Americans paid the ultimate price of freedom on 9/11. The libs in this country are losing ground fast with their "send them hugs not bombs" campaign. W will be a two term Pres.
25 posted on
10/31/2001 3:38:48 PM PST by
exnavy
To: ErnBatavia
I understand concern for the families and the avoidance of over-sensalization.
But I really think the horrific gruesome photos should NOT be covered up by the media.
Everyone needs to know what a terrible thing this truly was.
Everyone needs to see the horror and that this was NOT a Hollywood movie.
You can bet the media will not hesitate to show the world the horror of what our bombing has done
as soon as they can get their cameras in there.
War ain't pretty. People die. Sometimes in horrific unspeakable ways.
Media coverage of Desert Storm gave the sheeple the impression that war was sanitary.
Hollywood makes the sheeple think the gore of "Saving Private Ryan" was just a movie.
Taliban and Al Queda forces are being blown to bits and the media are chomping at the bit to have it on the 6:00 news.
26 posted on
10/31/2001 3:39:54 PM PST by
error99
To: ErnBatavia
My friend was there. She worked in the Verizon bldg., which is right there. She said when the 1st plane hit, she was almost knocked out of her chair. She left the Verizon bldg. and was watching events unfold. She counted 25 jumpers from the one side that she could see.
30 posted on
10/31/2001 3:42:20 PM PST by
Collier
To: ErnBatavia
The fireman who was on Larry King Weekend (this last weekend ... transcript still here) said one every couple of minutes. I'm sure it was dozens. Later I read that if people are in a window and a fire approaches them they almost ALWAYS will opt to jump.
To: ErnBatavia
If the average "Joe" or "Jane" on the street knew of the carnage and that they are removing little more than rotten hamburger with bone chips, teeth and powdered concrete that smells like garbage mixed with aviation fuel from the wreckage now, kabul, karachi, islamabad, damascus, tehran, bagdad, rihyad, cairo and mecca would be a smoldering radioactive ruin. They are keeping it under wraps for fear of real retaliation and public backlash.
44 posted on
10/31/2001 3:50:31 PM PST by
SpaceBar
To: ErnBatavia
My son told me that the Spanish language station on our Time-Warner Cable showed the whole situation on 9-11, including the poor souls jumping, etc. while the American stations cut it off. A friend of mine confirmed it-she was flipping throught he TV dials on 9-11-01 and kept it on the Spanish station as they showed the people jumping while the American stations didn't-not that she was gruesome, far from it, but the Spanish station gave a better historical perspective of the horror, and she didn't even speak Spanish. I didn't know until later in the week that the Spanish station showed the people jumping. You might get a total from them.
To: ErnBatavia
I had an e-mail from a friend who watched the entire thing unfold from an office window on Canal Street. I think it was hundreds of people who jumped.
To: ErnBatavia
I don't know, but whatever the count it was too damned many.
America must NEVER FORGET!
63 posted on
10/31/2001 3:57:55 PM PST by
pgkdan
To: ErnBatavia
So sad that a thread like this is even needed. Incredible how people can forget such horror, planes full of men, women and children being used as human bombs, crashed into the sides of buildings.
And this comment from this ABC head that said he can not make a value judgement on whether the attack on the pentagon was justified. Folks, our national fabric may not be torn beyond repair, but it sure is frayed.
64 posted on
10/31/2001 3:57:56 PM PST by
gogov
To: ErnBatavia
I have not seen a precise number; however, I did read that a bystander stated that unless one had been there, one could NEVER ever realize what the scene was like in the time shortly before the collapse of the first tower. He said that the entire street had become "a carpet of shoes" from all those who had jumped from the burning infernoes.
I do not have a link for you, but if I run across where I read/heard this vivid depiction of the WTC Atrocity, I'll post it for you.
65 posted on
10/31/2001 3:58:13 PM PST by
meridia
To: ErnBatavia
To: ErnBatavia
The film from yesterday with Enya in background brought this to my mind as well. I think we all like to think it was over in seconds for all those poor victims. From the pictures I have seen, the people had a fair amount of time to think, burn or jump, what a horrible decision and the last one they all had to make.
87 posted on
10/31/2001 4:22:15 PM PST by
Delmont
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