Posted on 10/30/2001 7:46:57 PM PST by KQQL
But the answer may mean some uncomfortable alternatives: govt subsidy of domestic producers in the lower 48 and drilling off CA & FL(and from what I understand, right now states have veto power over offshore drilling). Ram it down CA's throat, we can win without them, time they do their fair share after giving us Clinton and all those liberals.
the Terrorist have someone on the inside
There's nothing for it but to be dogged about getting them and protecting our stuff as best we can and plug our leaks, and we have to understand we're probably going to take more loses. Uh, what was that figure of probability, ....100%?
I kept trying to get likely candidates to form homeland security cells with me on the QT, but so far, no takers. Now I'm going public. Any takers?
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They aren't allowed to 'profile' anyone so they could not take into account the ethnicity of these six 'gentlemen.'
it said the INS questioned them & said to release them, the cops hands are tied at that point. something crooked in the INS??????
I received this advice from a credible source (cryptic though it is): You need to be prepared. The FBI, the police, cannot be everywhere at the same time.
Georgia Sheriff's deputies stop a "Middle Eastern" Clymer who is driving erratically enough to force them from the road.Excellent police work there.
Step 2: ID: Guy has several PASSPORTS, SEVERAL LICENSES, SEVERAL SS CARDS, THOUSANDS IN CASH, RECEIPTS FOR WIRE TRANSFERS OF $10,000 or more to ISLAMIC COUNTRIES. Guy says he's "going to work" at a restaurant? In a town 4 hours away? OBTW, no registration or proof of Insurance.
Step 3: Call for Back-up. Excellent Police Procedure there. Sheriff (aka 'hisself') arrives. They order the guy to DRIVE HIS OWN CAR AND FOLLOW THEM TO THE COURTHOUSE! Idiots.
Step 4: They call the FBI. No answer. They Photograph the geek, Fingerprint him. They call the FBI again. They don't seem to be very interested. More idiots.
Step 5: They charge the guy with using false ID, fine him, write him a ticket, AND LET THE MURDERING MUSLIM SOB GO!
They have NO IDEA who he is. They have NO IDEA where he is going.They DID NOT SEARCH the car, never mind impound it. They did not HOLD the man for questioning. THEY LET HIM GO!
This kind of police work would have been unpardonable before September 11. Now it is nothing short of national suicide.
The FBI certainly had time to "investigate" the people in Koresh's private residence. A whole month they surrounded a private home of US citizens who had never done anything to anyone.
Reading this brings to mind a thread on this site a week or so ago regarding a working in a power plant, I believe who called the FBI after 3 middle eastern "students" showed up wanting to photograph the plant. The response from the FBI agent he spoke with was basically, "So?"
When are these guys going to wake up??
Wasn't Dr. Whitehurst fired after he blew the whistle on the FBI Crime Lab incompetence? He showed they couldn't tell piss from explosives around the OK city timeframe. But he got a reward under the whistleblower protection law and became an attorney.
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