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********************How do you like WINDOWS XP?********************
From me ^ | 27 Oct 01 | Democrats are liars

Posted on 10/27/2001 11:16:24 AM PDT by Democrats are liars

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To: Ron C.
Fact is, XP is not an upgrade for Windows 2000, and installation of XP over a 2k system gains one very little.

I meant to say "update". I agree: customers who are satisfied with Win2K probably shouldn't upgrade.

you have to buy copies of this joke for every computer you own

This is not new. To be in compliance with the End User Licensing Agreement, this is true of every MS operating system. I don't advise my customers to buy one copy of Win2K and load it on every PC in their shop, for example. There are volume licensing agreements to address this.

Hell, it won't even play MP3 files. You have to purchase some other software to accomplish playing stored MP3.

Absolutely untrue. The Windows Media Player which ships with XP plays MP3's out of the box. Try it.

Old software works just fine for them, and runs efficiently and fast enough on systems that have plenty of life left in them, but at not up to par for XP.

Agreed. If they have old hardware (less than a Cel 466, for example), I wouldnt advise upgrading to either Win2K OR XP. However, if they have the hardware to support it and have encountered stability problems with Win9x/ME, upgrading to either Win2K or XP is worthwhile.

Only the uninformed run for the first release of any software

I've been running a dual boot of XP and Win2k since the early XP betas. The RTM XP. in my experience, is incredibly stable..perhaps more so than Win2k. I don't have a problem recommending either to customers. Of course, if a substantial part of your income comes from fixing Win9x/ME boxes or your customers are still running a bunch of DOS programs, I can see why you might be reluctant to advise installing an NT kernel operating system.

341 posted on 10/30/2001 3:55:40 AM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Democrats are liars
b for future reference
342 posted on 10/30/2001 7:28:03 AM PST by Moridin
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To: WileyCoyote22
Please buy and try before you read some article and parrot what you may think you know about XP.

Please read more carefully and note that I was replying point by point to another poster.

344 posted on 10/30/2001 4:57:53 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Democrats are liars
I have removable disc trays so I started with a clean install upgrading ME to XP. Need a modem driver that won't be out until the end of November but works great, runs fast, and installs printers like magic. Alot of my software runs in XP no problem.
345 posted on 10/30/2001 5:10:01 PM PST by RWG
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To: Bush2000
On the system that I use to run XP I have decided to go with anything but MS. I downloaded and installed the 602 PC Suite along with the $29.95 add ons. I downloaded and installed a $50 suite of desktop publishing programs and a pdf printer driver. For less than the cost of one of ms's programs I have incredible desktop publishing and office management programs. XP seems to do ok with them.
346 posted on 10/30/2001 5:18:40 PM PST by RWG
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To: RWG
On the system that I use to run XP I have decided to go with anything but MS.

Dominic Harr says that people like you don't exist; that consumers are morons who can't make informed choices; that nobody could possibly compete against MS; that < fill in useless tripe here >.

I say ... good for you. Competition lives.
347 posted on 10/30/2001 6:39:51 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Stefan Stackhouse
I have had a standard policy since the early 1990s: I do not install any new or upgraded Microsoft products until a minimum of 6 months after release. I have yet to regret waiting, and there have been many times I have been very glad I did. This appears to be yet another case where waiting for the maintenance release will pay off.

I don't begrudge Bill Gates his money, but I do figure that he really could afford his own guinea pigs.

I agree, except my rule is to wait until at least the second service pack has been released. Every new Windows release is buggy until Bill get's around to fixing it -- and then fixing it again, and again.... (NT 4.0 had at least six fixes.)

I'm just now updating all of my boxes to Windows 2000. I really love the Server version. It's saving me loads of admin time.

For XP, I think I'll modify my rule to wait until the second service pack and until Bill finally gives up his new absurd licensing scheme.

348 posted on 10/30/2001 6:54:46 PM PST by EarlyBird
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To: EarlyBird
As they say, "At Microsoft, Quality is Job 1.1"
349 posted on 10/30/2001 6:57:17 PM PST by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: Stefan Stackhouse
LOL
350 posted on 10/30/2001 7:01:51 PM PST by EarlyBird
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To: RWG; Bush2000
Software 602 eh?  Never heard of them before but it sounds interesting.  I'd prefer to use that instead of that free software from Sun!

I've also found the Microsoft Works product to be sufficient for low resource computers, students and even for general office use.  It's less than $60 and you get word processing (fewer features than Word but enough for most folks), a spreadsheet (likewise in relation to Excel), a database that meets most people's individual needs (not for network use), calendar, address book, etc.  The file formats are (mostly) compatible with the regular Office products.

If you want all the above plus the full version of Word, Microsoft Money and more, you can splurge on Works Suite for 110 bucks.

Since most people don't use all the features in Excel and only occasionally use PowerPoint, the above should be sufficient.  I consider these good values from Microsoft and often overlooked.

351 posted on 10/30/2001 7:23:40 PM PST by Incorrigible
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To: cidrasm
OK, if you're going to be like that. I started on a Sinclair ZX-80 with membrane keyboard and 1K of RAM in 1980.
352 posted on 10/31/2001 8:51:46 AM PST by droberts
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To: droberts
OK, if you're going to be like that. I started on a Sinclair ZX-80 with membrane keyboard and 1K of RAM in 1980.

I must bow to your lowest computing power platform :)

353 posted on 10/31/2001 12:06:18 PM PST by cidrasm
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To: RWG
I have removable disc trays so I started with a clean install upgrading ME to XP. Need a modem driver that won't be out until the end of November but works great, runs fast, and installs printers like magic. A lot of my software runs in XP no problem.
 

Thanks for the reply. I decided to give up on my old Dell (1 year old); I bought a new Dell with XP already loaded. It works fine and does not crash. Do not know what was up with my other computer.

354 posted on 11/22/2001 5:58:59 AM PST by Democrats are liars
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To: Democrats are liars
XP does not get along with any of my software like Norton System Works, and it eats too much memory. Plus it has too many nuances to understand it completely, unlike 98 or 95. But it is hella fast.
355 posted on 11/25/2001 9:48:53 PM PST by BERZERKER
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To: BERZERKER
bump
356 posted on 12/08/2001 12:28:47 PM PST by Democrats are liars
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To: Democrats are liars
XP is awesome. You need to get a "real" ISP. AOL is for the computer challenged.
357 posted on 12/08/2001 12:31:01 PM PST by nagdt
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To: Democrats are liars
For me, the first three weeks were very painful. I had been very familiar with the problems of upgrading in place and was wise enough to do a clean installation.

I had several blue screens (3 the first day) and difficulty with writing CD-ROM's, but after some patches had been posted to the Windows update site, everything has been smooth and fast.

I boot faster now than I ever have in the past, and the compatibility mode allows even very old games to run. Overall for a desktop or laptop solution, XP is the way to go for most people.

I had my problems with it in the beginning, but love it now.

358 posted on 12/08/2001 12:35:09 PM PST by LuvItOrLeaveIt
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To: Democrats are liars
I LOVE IT

My old computer had win 98, and after I upgraded to Win Mil it crashed every five minutes. So I switched back.

Got a new computer a month ago, with Win Mil, which also crashed all the time. It came with a promise of Win XP upgrade.

Took me three tries, then it worked like a charm. Hasn't crashed yet, though I'm still downloading drivers from the net.

Wouldn't want to load it myself if I was new to computers though.

However, it works faster and slick as a whistle.

359 posted on 12/08/2001 12:44:00 PM PST by LadyDoc
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