Posted on 10/27/2001 11:16:24 AM PDT by Democrats are liars
Well, I just finished installing Windows XP on my computer. It did not go nice and smooth. I ended up reformatting my hard drive and starting from scratch. I know Windows XP sure does not like AOL 6.0. I am in the process of downloading AOL 7.0. I am still installing all my old software. Yes Windows XP locked up on me many times today and last night. Well, I guess I just would like to know how every one else is doing with Windows XP.
It doesn't. Or was that hyperbole?
Furthermore, you DID leap on Linux and spew some B.S.; go back and read my ORIGINAL response, which did anything but "shove Linux down anyone else's throat" and was a DIRECT response to your words against Linux.
Lastly, you've been a total dick on this thread. Be very godd**ned careful to whom you speak this way on these threads. You never know just who the living hell you're talking to, now do you? If you DO work for MS, you just succeeded in alienating someone who has a little bit to say about the direction of one hell of MS channel. If you don't work for MS and aren't just guilty of defending "the home team", then screw yourself.
Well it was a reply to ShadowAce... I noticed you read it though... figured you would.
Would you care to put your money where your mouth is??? I'd be willing to put up ten grand that says I can come up with more than one PC card that will not work with RH.
Now the ball is in your court, dimwit!
Frankly, I think that when you make something free, it should be free ... as in, no strings, no requirements,
Then you are free to not steal...er...use it. Create your own software and put it under whatever license you choose. Of course, Microsoft releases all of their software under a license that is many times less free than even the GPL. They have never released any software that is in any way free, so why are they whining about the GPL? Is is because that Microsoft, not known for releasing quality code, nevertheless recognizes good code when they see it, but are terribly afraid of the consequences of stealing it? But that, being not in your interest, or mentioned in your Microsoft spin manual, is something that you wouldn't care to discuss, now would it?
Knitebane
So let's put one up that you will really have to twist and spin to get out of.
Please state for the record what your relationship is with the Microsoft corporation or any of it's subsidiaries.
For the record, I am a network security engineer that has performed security computer security work for the US military, worked for the largest telco in the country, one of the top ten largest banks and one of the largest security professional contracting firms in the US. I have never worked for any company that has ever been a direct developer or distributor of any free OS. The telco, at one time was a major developer of Unix, but stopped selling it long before I was hired. Other than that, I have never worked for any company that, to my knowlege, develops or distributes any operating system.
I would be happy to provide further details to anyone who wants them by Freepmail.
Knitebane
Don't do it!
There is an old saying - "Ignorance is bliss." But, most computer users these days are ignorant about what underlies the systems they use, how they really work, what makes a good system OS for home use and what does not.
I've probably been building and maintaining more systems longer than 95 percent of typical FReepers. Right now I take care of and advise about 800 customers. In the past month I've talked to at least 20 business customers about upgrading to XP. Two of them did upgrade, after I told them what they would run into. I know that because both of them called me back within days to tell me that they found the horrors they did... they wanted more help - I laughed at them.
If you don't know exactly what you are getting into, you better do your homework. There are a few links within the beginning 50 posts on this thread... that represent the tip of the iceberg. If you don't care, don't want to know, and don't mind MS messing with your future computer use, and don't mind extra cost, and having your system wide open for me to walk into - by all means, jump into this latest MS junk-trap.
Assuming your customers are running Win2K and don't care about increased compatability with Win9x apps, your advice is valid. WinXP is just an upgrade to Win2k.
However, if your customers are running any flavor of Win9x/ME, then you do them a disservice by not moving them to either Win2k or WinXP (assuming they have the appropriate hardware).
Since XP and Win2K both run on the NT kernel, I'd be interested in whether or not you recommend Win2k to your customers.
That's not what the advertisement push is. Fact is, XP is not an upgrade for Windows 2000, and installation of XP over a 2k system gains one very little. XP is hyped as the ideal upgrade to bring all the 95/98 systems ‘into the 21st century.' Too many dummies are listening.
The problem is, as you note ("assuming they have the appropriate hardware") most of those PCs can't handle XP requirements.
That's only the tip of the iceberg. XP is full of holes, traps, insufficiencies and total inabilities. Not to mention the fact that you have to buy copies of this joke for every computer you own, and you can no longer reinstall on a system once that system hardware has been upgraded - without MS permisso. You can no longer buy one upgrade disk and use it on all your computers. Try moving it just from an older machine to a new one - no dice.
Worst problems. It won't support a ton of hardware, no drivers. Hell, it won't even play MP3 files. You have to purchase some other software to accomplish playing stored MP3. It won't run a ton of older software, no access to DOS, no DOS programming will run on it, like anti-viral programs from McAfee and Symantec.
"you do them a disservice by not moving them to either Win2k or WinXP"
Uh huh - sure. I do MS a disservice by telling my customers the ugly truth. Businesses don't run out and buy the latest power-box every time hardware changes, nor do they need the latest software to conduct business. Old software works just fine for them, and runs efficiently and fast enough on systems that have plenty of life left in them, but at not up to par for XP.
Only the uninformed run for the first release of any software - and they are usually the ones that cry the loudest when things don't go right. Those who buy the latest OS from MS are the biggest fools of all - unless of course, they do nothing-at-all but surf the Internet - but even then, they'll have trouble with modems, printers and other hardware not provided for in this release.
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