********************How do you like WINDOWS XP?********************

I installed XP pro about two weeks ago. It is without a doubt the fastest, most stable OS I've ever used.

You're kidding about "the fastest", right? I mean, any version of DOS is faster than any windows version ever made, including XP. And never have I seen a Windows operating system upgrade operate faster than the last. I would expect it to be more stable though.

Actually I don't mind ME. I keep the root directory fairly clean and reformat HD every 3 to 4 months and have very little trouble with it.

A buddy is getting the corp. version of XP and will give it a try. If it still takes control over vendor programs I use for my peripherals I don't think I will be interested. I am an old geek and I like using my older scanner/camera/cd burner programs.

And like I said it is just my opinion as I am a real "end user" and not very savy as many young folks are these days.

no. probably just the sexy desktop and the jazzed-up photo and music capabilities.

Not to start an OS war, but more than a few of us have refused to continue on the Microsoft perpetual upgrade train. Try installing Linux (any distribution) as a dual-boot system, then work with both for a while and see which you prefer. I think the chances are at least even that you'll like Linux better.

Amazing, a thread that asks what people think about Windows XP -- and you offer an opinion that everybody should use Linux. Thanks for the input.

I think you'd better look in a mirror when you talk about pushing religious beliefs.

Or maybe you should consider starting your own thread so that you can spread your viral Linux advocacy... The rest of us are discussing Windows.

Stick with Win2K...better.

How do you know windows 2000 is better? How long have you been using Windows XP (final version)? Shoot, it just came out a few days ago. I have been messing with Windows XP all day; I think I am going to like it. Its not perfect; but what is?

It's too bad it's not run on win2k. I notice everytime it gets busy the board goes down. Election night, impeachment, etc...

I guess you get what you pay for. And linux isn't truly *free* it ends up costing more in support costs than windows does.

JohnRob, care to clue this guy in as to what "busy" is??

I have tried to refrain from calling you an idiot, but you seem determined to spout your ignorant blather no matter what. Fine, so be it, but you OBVIOUSLY DON'T know what you are talking about.

The following is a list of groups that need a LOT of computing power. They seem to believe that LINUX works VERY well. BUT who are we to believe, scientists and computer science departments all over the world, or you???

Grendel Clemson University PVFS and system development
Drexel Drexel University cyborg cluster
Stone SouperComputer Oak Ridge National Lab (ORNL) a 126 node cluster at zero dollars per node
Naegling CalTech's Beowulf Linux cluster
Loki Los Alamos Beowulf cluster has an especially cool logo
Megalon Sandia's large Beowulf
theHive Goddard Space Flight Center one of the large Beowulf cluster at Goddard
AENEAS University of California, Irvine
MAGI CTU Prague's Beowulf cluster used for speech recognition
Brahma Duke University's cluster
Topcat University of Southern Queensland's Beowulf cluster
USM University of Southern Mississippi online discussions about bringing a Beowulf to the campus
LoBoS NIH
SWARM Oregon State University
smile Smile Cluster at Kasetsart University
Wisconsin University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee A DEC Alpha 300XL based system used to support the LIGO Experiment within the Physics Department at UWM
HIDRA University of Barcelona's UB-UPC Dynamical Systems Group
DeepFlow Viscoelastic Group at Universite' catholique de Louvain A 16 node Alpha-PC based cluster
Avalon Los Alamos National Laboratory Center for Nonlinear Studies and Theoretical Division
Hyglac JPL's High Performance Computing Group
Collage ANL distributed rendering and visualization
Weland Memorial University Seismic Imaging Consortium
CPGE Intel Cluster Department of Petroleum and Geosystems Engineering, The University of Texas at Austin
wonderland Texas Institute for Computational and Applied Mathematics, University of Texas at Austin
ERATO-I Kitano Symbiotic Systems Project 32- Pentium-II, 100Base-TX, Catalyst 5505
Enterprise Voyager and theBorg Deppartment Physical Chemistry, Cambridge University, UK
Medusa Electromagnetics Laboratory, New Mexico State University
CTF CASPUR, Italian Academic Consortium for Supercomputing Applications Rome
Clarkson Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering used for geometric and material nonlinear finite element analysis of Geotechnical problems
ICE Box Center for High Performance Computing, University of Utah one of many Beowulf clusters at U of Utah
Wulfpack Johns Hopkins Medical School
highpoint Computer Science Dept of High Point University primary use is education / research
GALAXY Dept. of Nuclear Engineering, Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology Monte-Carlo particle transport simulation
COCOA Aerospace Engineering, Penn State University 400MHz Pentium II, Fast Ethernet
Spectra Cluster Dept Electrical and Computer Engineering, Univ of Alabama in Huntsville
Storm rendering raytraced environments in interactive rates
Texas Tech Tornado Dept. of Computer Science, TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY cluster is used for both research and teaching
NCHC PC Cluster National Center for High-performance Computing, Hsichu, Taiwan
Marina Case Western Reserve University
PPME Monash Parallel Parametric Modelling Engine
Helge Arrhenius Laboratory, Stockholm University Physical Chemistry
Yggdrasil Institute of Theoretical Dynamics at the University of California, Davis primarily used for computational biology
CARRIER University of Florida This cluster supports simulative and experimental architecture, interconnect, and algorithm research
ISCTE/ADETTI Lisbon/Portugal University rendering/ray trace anfd other scientific applications
LAMA LAMA's Materials Laboratory at UPV/EHU Monte Carlo simulations of phase transitions in condensed matter physics
Störtebeker Institut für Technische Informatik, Medizinische Universität zu Lübeck Research projects: fault tolerance, intelligent and configurable networks, load management with mobile agents, mobile robots. Application projects: medical and multimedia.
earthdome Watson Technical Consulting runs TAOS/mpi and various meteorological software packages such as MM5 (a mesoscale model) and CCM3.6 (a climate model) for storm hazard risk assessments and research, concentrating on Tropical Cyclone research
SPARROW University of Arkansas network research and computational server
BlackAdder Someplace in Canada A personal Beowulf Cluster built to study clusters and parallel rendering
NA49 Hewlett-Packard/GSI/CERN Particle physics data processing
YAC Bioinformatics, Samuel Lunenfeld Research Institute and the Univeristy of Toronto All-atom ensemble-based protein folding simulations and URL/HTTP-based distributed clustering
GRAVITOR Geneva Observatory, University of Geneva used for astrophysics problems
Tempest and Lear Department of Physics & Astronomy,University of Pittsburgh Lear is dedicated especially for large lattice QCD computations
wiglaf Harvey Mudd College teaching and research including fluid dynamics and medical modeling applications
Trojans Cluster Project Internet and Cluster Computing Lab at University of Southern California Cluster middleware research
ClusterTux NCAR - National Center for Atmospheric Research MM5 (weather modelling)
ParaStation University of Karlsruhe: Dept. of Informatics Enables high performance cluster computing by reducing latency and increasing throughput
Bolo a heterogeneous beowulf cluster.
supercom Korea University A large Beowulf in Korea used for economic forecasting: bond yields, stock prices, exchange rates
Valhalla University of Missouri - St. Louis Being used for computational chemistry and problems in the Business Administration/MIS departments
Chaingang Department of Chemistry & Biochemistry, University of the Sciences in Philadelphia Flagship of the West Center for Computer-Aided Drug Discovery used for computational chemistry calculations.
Gargleblaster Parallel Computing Facility, Dept of CS, UC Santa Barbara used for research and education
Gollach University of Cape Town's Radar Remote Sensing Group used for radar and image processing and development of parallel processing techniques
ODIN Materials Science Division of Argonne National Laboratory ODIN is a 37-node PIII 450MHz cluster
UMD Cluster in Duluth Pentium III system
HDWT-BeOne Ecole Centrale d'Electronique used for research
THOR Department of Physics, University of Alberta, Canada a (40 dual PII/III) Linux cluster in production for High Energy Physics analysis at the Center for Subatomic Research
ANUWulf The Australian National University a 192 CPU PIII/550 machine using a novel arrangement of fast ethernet interfaces
Telaketju Wireless Internet Laboratory, VTT Electronics, Finland A Beowulf "environment" consist of two clusters, Smaug (9x PII-266MHz) and Glaurung (32xPIII-500Mhz).
Realm Dept. Geography, University of Maryland a 72-node (36 dual-processor) parallel image database for manipulating Landsat satellite data.
w3lotus Laboratoire de Physique de l'Etat Condense, Universite du Maine, Le Mans used for computational physics and computational physical chemistry
LANNA High Performance Computing Reseach Labs in Computer Engineering, Chiang Mai University (CMU), Thailand used to study parallel computing and image processing
ALICE Ames Ames Laboratory ISU Cluster Environment: 64 dual-processor Pentuim Pros connected by Fast Ethernet
Ames' IBM cluster Ames 22 dual-processor IBM 43P machines connected by Gigabit Ethernet
GECOA Ames Ames Laboratory Gigabit Ethernet Cluster of Alphas: 24 Alpha 21164 machines connected by Gigabit Ethernet
LION-X Penn State University Supports the Numerically Intensive Computing Group
Abacus Image Processing Laboratory, EE Dept., City University of Hong Kong used for the development of Multi-media related topics, such as Content-based Image Retrieval
COOTIE Clinton High School, Clinton Michigan a cluster built by an independent study group from "recycled" 486 machines
Lalainya Bluepoint Institute of Higher Technology, Philippines used for traffic modelling and analysis
Infinite Beowulf a general site about Beowulfs includes a neat message board
ClusterCompute Sitename The construction of a very compact and low cost high performance beowulf research cluster
Maginet Laboratory of the Quantum Chemistry Group of the University Rovira i Virgili in Tarragona (Spain) mainly dedicated to computational chemistry projects
NOTOOBAD OSSIM a 12 node Beowulf built at imagelinks in Melbourne.
kamadhenu JNCASR Bangalore
ASMA Computer Engineering, Bogaziçi University, Istanbul/Turkey ASMA (Advanced System for Multicomputer Applications)
KLAT2 University of Kentucky KAOS Lab 64+2 Athlon "Flat Neighborhood" testbed
Opus University of Kentucky KAOS Lab 16+1 K6-2 driving 6,400x4,800 pixel video wall
Odie University of Kentucky KAOS Lab 4+1 Athlon testbed
PIII-SMP Purdue University Parallel Processing Lab 4+1 quad PIII "production" system
PII Purdue University Parallel Processing Lab 32+2 PII driving 6,400x4,800 pixel video wall
Tyche University of Rhode Island a component of the SPEAR project
Beowulf beowulf.gr an information centre of Greek Beowulf projects
Chiba City the Chiba City cluster at Argonne
Colony a 192-Processor linux cluster at xcific Northwest National Laboratory
PEAM Parallel AE Machine used for distributed evolutionary algorithms in the field of reverse-engineering
Jotunheim Suncoast High School of Riviera Beach, Florida used to study parallel computing and factoring large numbers
Sparky Phil's Beowulf System a personal Beowulf cluster
Jane Option Black used for parallel computing and a Syntactical Structures linguistics research project
Baldric - Clusters University of Western Ontario is an undergraduate project that has built several clusters. One is used to knot theory.
SARA foundation in cooperation with University of Amsterdam has a constructed a cluster for general purpose high performance computing
The Collective University of Idaho a service of the Initiative for Bioinformatics and Evolutionary STudies
Nuredduna Interdisciplinary Physics Deparment of the Instituto Mediterraneo de Estudios Avanzados used for research in the general context of nonlinear science, cooperative phenomena and complex systems
Flock University of Kentucky Center for Computational Science The Flock, 32 K6 233MHz with 10/100/1000 Ethernets
Galugtica University of Kentucky Linux User's Group Galugtica, a rag-tag fleet of surplus PCs (with video wall)
KRAAZMP University of Kentucky KAOS Lab Kentucky Research AMD Athlons, Z - Multiple PCs (KRAA Z-MP)
Alpha11 SAIT Samsung Advanced Institute of Technology provides the Alpha11 to public for High Performance Computing, Benchmarking the systems or programs, and for sharing information of Alpha linux cluster
Kidlat at DATA College, Philippines: A Beowulf cluster open for outside researches and students
OHM at Calvin College. It is used for undergraduate education and computational modeling research.
Florida Tech's Beowulf cluster

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i was afraid of that. so i took everything off my hard disk and formatted it and re-installed win98. i deliberately did not re-install winme.

i've had some problems with winme.

Bush2000, before you aim your howitzers in my direction, I have NOT been talking down XP. With each release, Windows DOES improve.

I DON'T agree with their product activation scheme, but they are free to do things as they see fit. We should all be able to continue to keep making a good living supporting and using their products for the foreseeable future.

But I will NOT stand idly by while other OSes are being inaccurately talked down.

How do you know windows 2000 is better? How long have you been using Windows XP (final version)? Shoot, it just came out a few days ago. I have been messing with Windows XP all day; I think I am going to like it. Its not perfect; but what is?

You got it all wrong...I have been using Win2k since day one maybe two, i am using 2k Pro and it proved to be quite stable next to Win98. Also did not have to make any attempts to register the OS before using it, like you have to do with XP.

Why are you "messing" whit it allday since is such a great OS as you stated. It took me a lttle over an hour to clean install w2k including all my business software, and have the machine up and running within 2 hours. Your statement "I think I am going to like it" does not sound very reassuring to me. In any case good luck on your project!

"...Even told me which programs, devices are not going to work. You got a problem with MS?..."
ROTFL!

LOL. And I thought I had problems installing Linux...

You know that button that asks if you want it to overwrite your master boot record? Its usually a good idea to ask someone what that means before you try to do that on a dual boot system...

I never said Linux wouldn't work for large organizations. However, it isn't free to make it work right. That's why I referenced freerepublic being down during peak times. You have to have a super highly skilled person to manage it (not saying freerepublic guys aren't good--but the site was down).

Ever visit tpc.org? Who is the best whenever price is in the mix? Linux? Nope! Microsoft? Yes!

Because of you , I shall mark this thread . I know folks here know this stuff , but I desire to learn . Thank you , although you may have been motivated for another reason I appreciate you being here .

Hey , the power of duplication in it's finest hour !

bump !

"XP...It's great. I can't imagine going back to the other OS's. Now if my apps/games wouldn't run on it I guess I would go back to the 9x line, but every single game/app I have runs just fine."

I've been using XP (home) for about 3 weeks, since it came on my new computer (I had not heard of it before). It's different than Windows 98, but that doesn't mean it's better or worse. One problem I've had is that the game "Black and White," which I have wanted to try for a while now, won't run on XP. I'm very disappointed. Everything else runs fine, though.