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H.R.3162 PATRIOT ACT{ YOUR NEW- POLICESTATE- LOOK FOR YOUR SELF}
thomas ^ | GOVERNMENT

Posted on 10/27/2001 9:33:56 AM PDT by freedomnews

H.R.3162

Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism (USA PATRIOT ACT) Act of 2001


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
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To: LiberteeBell
I agree with you as you know lol. You know I dont think they come here to share ideas. I think it is only to see how many flames with rude comments they can fire off and get their buddies to cheer at.
221 posted on 10/27/2001 7:11:01 PM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: Garrisson Lee
that the truth
222 posted on 10/27/2001 7:12:18 PM PDT by freedomnews
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To: Mercuria
the goverment can now come into your home , you are not at home the government dos not have to tell you
223 posted on 10/27/2001 7:16:30 PM PDT by freedomnews
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To: Garrisson Lee
That is an honor comming from you. Thank you very much.
224 posted on 10/27/2001 7:18:54 PM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: Mercuria
"Anti-[big] government [control], pro-freedom...like the MAJORITY of the members of this board...last year, anyway..."

No kidding. And it his kind that have run off some very good FReepers.

225 posted on 10/27/2001 7:23:14 PM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: Mercuria
Bush Signs Anti-Terrorism Bill

WASHINGTON- President Bush on Friday signed a sweeping anti-terrorism bill into law, giving police and intelligence agencies vast new powers to "counter a threat like no other our nation has ever faced."

"Today, we take an essential step in defeating terrorists while protecting the constitutional rights of all Americans," Bush said in an East Room ceremony even as the government grappled with a series of anthrax cases that may be linked to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

"This government will enforce this law with all the urgency of a nation at war," Bush said.

The legislation, while somewhat weakened from the administration's original proposal, expands the FBI's wiretapping and electronic surveillance authority and imposes stronger penalties for harboring or financing terrorists. It increases the number of crimes considered terrorist acts and toughens the punishment for committing them.

The bill also gives police wide-ranging new anti-terrorism powers to secretly search people's homes and business records and to eavesdrop on telephone and computer conversations.

"This law will give intelligence and law enforcement officials new tools to fight a present danger," Bush said.

The ceremony, attended by Vice President Dick Cheney, lawmakers and uniformed law enforcement officials, came one day after Attorney General John Ashcroft said the Justice Department will begin using the new powers immediately.

"Upon the president's signature, I will direct investigators and prosecutors to begin immediately seeking court orders to intercept communications related to an expanded list of crimes under the legislation," he said.

Lawmakers, worried about possible abuse of the new wiretapping and surveillance powers, placed a four-year cap on that part of the legislation.

"It gives us the time to investigate whether there were any outrageous abuses," Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said.

The House and Senate approved Bush's anti-terrorism package in less than two months, skipping much of the normal committee process in their haste. Lawmakers say they still came up with a good bill.

"The gestation period has been a few weeks. But it's a heck of a lot better than to have given birth to a monster, and we didn't do that," said Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., the Senate Judiciary Committee chairman.

Critics disagreed. "It is still dangerous legislation, and unfortunately there are still too many weaknesses in the bill that could end up curbing and infringing fundamental civil rights and liberties," said Ralph Neas, president of the liberal People For the American Way.

Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., was the only senator to vote against the package. "This bill does not strike the right balance between empowering law enforcement and protecting civil liberties," Feingold said.

Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch, senior Republican on the Judiciary Committee, retorted: "I don't know anybody in this country who's afraid of their law enforcement people at this time. They're afraid of terrorism."

The new legislation allows nationwide jurisdiction for search warrants and electronic surveillance devices, including legal expansion of those devices to e-mail and the Internet. It also authorizes the use of roving wiretaps, in which officials get orders that allow them to tap whatever telephone a person uses instead of one telephone at a time.

Senators also insisted on tacking money-laundering stipulations into the bill to thwart the flow of money to terrorist groups and protect the U.S. banking system from illicit money.

The House inserted an expiration date for the new wiretapping and electronic surveillance powers. Under the bill, Congress has to renew the anti-terrorism legislation before Dec. 31, 2005, or the eavesdropping sections expire.

Ashcroft and Bush fought strongly against that provision, but Republican leaders in the House told them the bill could not muster a majority without it

226 posted on 10/27/2001 7:24:15 PM PDT by freedomnews
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To: Demidog
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I would stop the terrorist by enforcing existing laws.
Why does every new violation of law
require new laws to handle it?
We already have laws to handle terrorism.
It was done before, with no violation of our rights.
You do not understand...
We are not at war.
# 121 by exodus

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For Your Information, my FRiend.

Nobody reads the Constitution anymore.

227 posted on 10/27/2001 7:25:36 PM PDT by exodus
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To: Jolly Rodgers
Thanks for that one
228 posted on 10/27/2001 7:26:55 PM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: Mercuria
Now Merc...dont hit the abuse button on us ok? LOL
229 posted on 10/27/2001 7:31:19 PM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: freedomnews
Thanks, I missed that one.

You are right. Anthrax has been blamed on right wing extremists.

And NATO is patrolling OUR skys.

Bring our military home.

How did it happen that our military is too busy keeping the peace in 100+ countries to take care and defend "We the People"?

How did this happen, and why did we allow it to happen?

230 posted on 10/27/2001 7:36:05 PM PDT by carenot
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To: exodus
I would think that this Bill is a defacto declaration of war. Congress does not have to pass a formal declaration of war to "declare" war. The manner in which Congress declares War is not set forth in the constitution. They can declare War by simply by supporting the military action of the Commander in Chief.

How's the view from under the sand?

231 posted on 10/27/2001 7:37:57 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: robnoel
Good site too. Gee how long have you had that now?
232 posted on 10/27/2001 7:37:58 PM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: Reagan Man
"America is at WAR! Those who don't want to make any sacrifices in order to help assure victory in the fight against terrorism are anti-American in my book."; Somebody PLEASE tell me when we declared war? Did I miss a session of congress where there was a vote? This IS nothing but an infringment of our unalienable rights granted to us by birth. And this administration argued to not have these provisions sunset in four years - if it was only about 'this war' than why would you need these permanent powers? Wake up before it is too late!!!!!
233 posted on 10/27/2001 7:38:57 PM PDT by thompson
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To: freedomnews
The bill also gives police wide-ranging new anti-terrorism powers to secretly search people's homes and business records and to eavesdrop on telephone and computer conversations.

The sunset clause appears to not cover the secret search part of this new edict.

"The House inserted an expiration date for the new wiretapping and electronic surveillance powers. Under the bill, Congress has to renew the anti-terrorism legislation before Dec. 31, 2005, or the eavesdropping sections expire."

234 posted on 10/27/2001 7:42:45 PM PDT by KDD
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To: P-Marlowe
I would think that this Bill is a defacto declaration of war. Congress does not have to pass a formal declaration of war to "declare" war.

Stated like a democrat. Have anymore lame excuses to offer?. Oh, Congress did formally reject a declaration of war, didn't get that one either did ya.

How's the internal audit going?.

---max

235 posted on 10/27/2001 7:44:24 PM PDT by max61
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To: P-Marlowe
I would think that this Bill is a defacto declaration of war.

you are right about that. It's a defacto declaration of War against the American people.

236 posted on 10/27/2001 7:45:52 PM PDT by KDD
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To: muawiyah
Count on you to do what???
I repeat, we are not at war!!!! Only congress can declare war not the President, not any one senator, not any one congressman!!!
Let me say it again, WE ARE NOT OFFICIALLY AT War! As for a soldier swearing to defend, with the oath, they also swear to fight and not be a coward even if it means giving their lives. Please don't lecture someone who served their country howsoever they served, be it in an off, at a computer, in the field, on the front lines. Bottom line they are serving their country!!
237 posted on 10/27/2001 7:54:06 PM PDT by poet
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To: Mercuria; robnoel
I agree with Merc and if you do sell...the new ownwer better do as good a job as you.
238 posted on 10/27/2001 7:57:41 PM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: KDD; John Robinson; 6ppc; Alas Babylon!; au eagle; awelliott; baimsey; BamaG; Barn Owl; Billjo...
Congressional Record: October 25, 2001 USA PATRIOT ACT OF 2001 (Senate)]
239 posted on 10/27/2001 8:02:29 PM PDT by freedomnews
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To: freedomnews
Congressional Record: October 25, 2001 USA PATRIOT ACT OF 2001 (Senate)]
240 posted on 10/27/2001 8:04:29 PM PDT by freedomnews
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