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Nuclear cave-killers: Gordon Prather questions wisdom of vaporizing bin Lad
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, October 27, 2001 | Gordon Prather

Posted on 10/26/2001 10:45:15 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

WND Exclusive Commentary
Nuclear cave-killers


© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

One of the things the Pentagon learned during the Gulf War was that our stockpile did not then include certain kinds of nukes that we needed and might actually have used; the kinds of nukes that warhawks – in and out of the Pentagon – wish we had, today, to use against both Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Like the "micro-nuke" bunker-killer proposed by Los Alamos National Lab scientists Dowler and Howard in a 1991 Strategic Review article, entitled "Countering the Threat of the Well-armed Tyrant: A Modest Proposal for Small Nuclear Weapons." In 1991, the Bush-Quayle administration had begun to dismantle our obsolete battlefield nukes – designed for use against massive armor formations – which had never actually been used against Soviet or Iraqi armor. In fact, although they have a great deterrent effect on a nation-state, nukes have never actually been used on the battlefield. Bush-Quayle-Cheney supposed that a new class of nukes might need to be developed for the battlefields of the post-Cold War era. So, they vigorously opposed the efforts of the disarmament crowd in Congress to sign-on to an indefinite "zero-threshold" nuke test ban.

But then the Clinton-Gore disarmament crowd came to power and began to get rid of our entire existing nuke stockpile – not just the nukes that were obsolete or excess to our needs. Clinton also announced that we would abide by the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty – irrespective of whether the Senate ever ratified it – and would never again design, build or test new nukes. Clinton got Congress – then controlled by the Democrats – to enact a total prohibition against "research and development which could lead to the production by the United States of a low-yield nuclear weapon ... a nuclear weapon that has a yield of less than five kilotons."

The Pentagon got around this prohibition by modifying an existing nuke, the Air Force's B-61 "dial-a-yield" gravity bomb. The lowest yield that could be dialed – essentially by disabling those parts of the B-61 that could enable it to produce several hundred kilotons of yield – was less than five kilotons. Without modifying the nuke design, itself, the Pentagon essentially turned the thin-shelled gravity bomb into an armor-piercing projectile. The "bunker-killer" – designated the B61 Mod11 – entered the stockpile in 1997, and the B-2 bomber was certified to carry it. (To be an effective earth-penetrator it has to be dropped from about 40,000 feet.)

Last year, perhaps in anticipation of a Bush-Cheney administration, a Republican-controlled Congress effectively repealed the Clinton total prohibition against research on "micro-nukes." Included within the Conference Report for the 2001 National Defense Authorization Act is this language:

The conferees note that a recent legal interpretation of existing law raised questions regarding whether DOE [Department of Energy] could participate in, or otherwise support, certain Department of Defense (DOD) studies and options assessments for defeating hardened and deeply buried targets. This provision expressly allows DOE to assist DOD with a review of these targets and the options for defeating such targets. The conferees believe that DOE should provide information and other assistance required to help DOD make informed decisions on whether: (1) to proceed with a new method of defeating hardened and deeply buried targets; and (2) to seek any necessary modifications to existing law.

Of course, even if Congress authorized actual development of "micro-nukes" next fiscal year, it would be years before they could actually be ready for use. In the meantime, all we have is the B61 Mod 11.

Now, President George W. Bush has declared War on Terrorism, and the battlefields of that war are here, at home, and in about 50 nation-states around the world, all harboring – knowingly or unknowingly – terrorists. In particular, Osama bin Laden may be in a bunker or cave, protected by the Taliban, the officially recognized – at least by the neighboring nation-state of Pakistan – government of Afghanistan.

But, before we try to nuke bin Laden with our "bunker-killer" – as some pundits and Congressmen have suggested – maybe we ought to take into account that we will also be effectively nuking the nation-state of Afghanistan. Then consider that Pakistan's version of our CIA – the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, a rogue elephant if ever there was one – not only installed and sustains the Taliban in Afghanistan, but is also the custodian in charge of safeguards and security of the several dozen Islamic nukes in the Pakistani stockpile. Just a thought.

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1 posted on 10/26/2001 10:45:16 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
for the record, I would not mind bin Laden getting vaporized... can we have a show of hands?
2 posted on 10/26/2001 10:50:32 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
No doubt that the lab is working on this as we type.
3 posted on 10/26/2001 10:52:15 PM PDT by zarf
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To: GeronL
I dunno, the head on a spike has a certain charm...
4 posted on 10/26/2001 10:53:11 PM PDT by sbelew
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To: sbelew
the head on a spike has a certain charm...

Sounds good to me....

5 posted on 10/26/2001 10:55:57 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Then consider that Pakistan's version of our CIA – the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, a rogue elephant if ever there was one – not only installed and sustains the Taliban in Afghanistan, but is also the custodian in charge of safeguards and security of the several dozen Islamic nukes in the Pakistani stockpile. Just a thought.

So hit the stockpiles with conventioal precision munitions from F-117s or B-2s. Then say, what bomb? Did you see the aircraft that dropped it? Must have been Indian sappers, or just sloppy handling procedures. Of course the Indians' nukes would still be intact.

6 posted on 10/26/2001 10:56:19 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: JohnHuang2
bttt
7 posted on 10/26/2001 11:07:19 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: sbelew
the head on a spike has a certain charm...

I'm charmed!

8 posted on 10/26/2001 11:10:39 PM PDT by onyx
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To: GeronL
As much as I would like to see OBL vaporized, I think it would be better to hunt him down like the dog he is. What makes us a true superpower is our ability to control ourselves during a moment in our history when it would be easily to defend using weapons of mass destruction. Especially after what we have had to endure from the likes of the "Evil One" and the Al-Qaeda organization.

We should be thankful we have George W. Bush and the very talented and experienced team we have leading us in these difficult times. The fact that our President openly seeks guidence "from a power greater than any of us"(george W. Bush 9/11/01) is what makes me support this President 100%. I have never been prouder to be an American and I have not been prouder of a President since the days of Ronald Reagan.

May God Continue to Bless our Nation and God Bless George W. Bush

9 posted on 10/26/2001 11:11:36 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: JohnHuang2
Vaporization is good. Nothing wrong with making an example of bin Laden.
10 posted on 10/26/2001 11:16:11 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: MJY1288
I shudder to think of Gore opening negotiations with bin Laden.. a peace treaty maybe? bbrrrrr
11 posted on 10/26/2001 11:18:56 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: MJY1288
After standing on the three way bridge (that was the aiming point), seeing the shadows of many people that ceased to exist on 5 Aug. 1945 as I gazed at the "atomic" dome. I'd like to see them use small nukes on the caves and bunkers.

As for Saddam in Iraq, I'd like to see them use THE BIGGEST WE'VE GOT. Then turn to the Saudis, Egypt, etc. and remind them "your with us, or your with the terrorist". Then take care of the rest of the B@stards.

12 posted on 10/26/2001 11:23:13 PM PDT by stumpy
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To: JohnHuang2
Oh I feel so ashamed to say this, but his head would look better displayed on a pig's body.
13 posted on 10/26/2001 11:28:47 PM PDT by Minty
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To: Minty
Bump!
14 posted on 10/26/2001 11:34:23 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Thanks for the thought, Gordon. Now, will you please pass the B61's over?
15 posted on 10/27/2001 12:10:07 AM PDT by Fulbright
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To: sbelew
"I dunno, the head on a spike has a certain charm..."

Naaah, I think Vlad the Impaler had it right.
The entire body, mounted on a tall shaft --- mounted via the clymer's clymer.
Semper Fi

16 posted on 10/27/2001 12:30:56 AM PDT by river rat
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To: GeronL
Well, I would like his severed head sold on Ebay to raise funds for the people that son of a bitch murdered or auction his skull as a prime piss pot. Either way. Whatever pisses off, enrages, or humiliates the "Muslim world" is what I want. How about Bin Laden bone chip jewelry? As for the other cave vermin, nerve gas 'em.
17 posted on 10/27/2001 12:36:41 AM PDT by Imperial Warrior
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To: MJY1288
What makes us a true superpower is our ability to control ourselves during a moment in our history when it would be easily to defend using weapons of mass destruction.

I disagree with this reasoning. It is important to neutralize and punish terrorists, but it's much more important to teach a lesson to those who would follow in their footsteps. Target what is dear and near to them. Exact heaviest price possible. Nuke them.

18 posted on 10/27/2001 12:58:48 AM PDT by eclectic
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To: Imperial Warrior
Sell his head on e-bay I like that, I'll open the bidding at one pile of sh*t.
19 posted on 10/27/2001 2:22:12 AM PDT by Cybear
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