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1 posted on 10/25/2001 11:45:14 AM PDT by Jean S
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Silly me, I thought it was their stupid "religion".
2 posted on 10/25/2001 11:48:34 AM PDT by garyhope
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"...your own political powers are screwing you."

And add your own religion as well. The Koran and the Islamic tradition spawned out of religious and political rage from its inception are completely inconsistent with principles of toleration, peace, and coexistence. It is nothing less than the expression of totalitarianism cloaked in the garb of religious superiority.

3 posted on 10/25/2001 11:51:32 AM PDT by eleni121
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Important stuff, here; and thank you.
4 posted on 10/25/2001 12:01:27 PM PDT by First_Salute
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What is happening in Saudi Arabia, is what happened in China.

The Chinese written language, for example, was purposefully difficult and not taught commonly, until the last two centuries, in an attempt by the previous centuries' dynasties, to maintain control over the populace, by keeping them ignorant.

6 posted on 10/25/2001 12:13:03 PM PDT by First_Salute
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Another factor will some come into play; defense of family and homeland. Remember the Russians refused to fight for communism but had no problem fighting for motherland.

On another topic, are any Middle-Eastern products - besides carpets and cotton - competitive on world markets?

7 posted on 10/25/2001 12:27:32 PM PDT by liberallarry
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Many seems to forget the real important fact. That is, violent radical Islam championed by Khomeini and Bin Laden actually produced results in Muslim's favor. These days, just about everybody appears to believe that radical Islam dominated for many decades. That is not so. Until mid 70's, Arabs were into socialism and Marxism. They tried to defeat "Western Imperialism", using that ideology. But it did not produce good results.

Then Khomeini came along and decisively toppled Shah's regime. The unwavering fanaticism of Iranian Shi'ites and their apparent success to intimidating Americans and Soviets showed Muslim that there is much better way for their struggle. Pan-Arabism has been always there. All Arab countries get united and stand up against infidels as another big power, if not superpower. Now, radical Islam replaced socialism as the leading ideology of Arabs for driving out "Western powers", controling their governments, the powers which are blamed for all of their problems, which may not be true.

The popularity of Jihad comes from the fact that Jihad produced many tangible results. The defeat of Soviet Union in Afghanistan, the defeat of U.S. in Iran. Short break after the Gulf War, there is a string of high profile terrorist attacks. WTC bombing, Saudi American barracks' bombing, East African Embassy bombing, the bombing of U.S.S. cole, and now the destruction of WTC. To Arabs, Jihad is on a roll, it is working. No wonder it is popular. Only the complete defeat like '67 War or Gulf War can stop it by making Arabs lose their faith in Jihad.

12 posted on 10/25/2001 12:56:47 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Freedom House bump. Great post!
13 posted on 10/25/2001 12:57:18 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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