McVeigh's Ghost - Top Pentagon Officials Say Iraq Involved in OKC Bombing

US News & World Report/ Fox & Friends ^ | October 23, 2001 | Paul Bedard

[OKCSubmariner]

Some dismiss it as being akin to Elvis sightings, but a few top Defense officials think Oklahoma City bomber Tim McVeigh was an Iraqi agent. The theory stems from a never-before-reported allegation that McVeigh had allegedly collected Iraqi telephone numbers. Why haven't we heard this before about the case of the executed McVeigh? Conspiracy theorists in the Pentagon think it's part of a coverup.

[InterceptPoint]

>>> 96442230288 <<<

Why don't you dial it and see who answers? BTW, 964 is the counry code for Iraq.

[aristeides]

There might be no practical way to assure Nichols that he could not be Arkancided, but couldn't he be persuaded with the promise of goodies to relatives?

[aristeides]

How much of this did Adm. Boorda know?

[OKCSubmariner]

See reply #273

[copycat]

If this info proves true, and we remember that Strassmeier was a German who had contact with McVeigh I believe, and add that to the fact that recent attacks are now said to have been planned in Germany, several things become strong possibilities...

1) Both the OKC bombing and the 9/11 attack were planned by middle easterners and orchestrated through Germany.

2) The clinton administration was complicit in allowing all evidence of a second OKC bomber to be buried by the FBI and DOJ.

3)The clinton administration, knowing that there was a middle eastern connection, still allowed right-wing militias to be falsely blamed for OKC in order to weaken its' political enemies. and

4) Subsequently, the clinton administration was sympathtic to the acts of any terrorists involved in OKC, and acted against the interests of America.

[Lion's Cub]

Having McVeigh take the fall for OKC does not start a war between the US and Islam.

Timing...In 95, the military was stronger and not spread as thin as it is now. The terror cells here were not as developed. Atta was in Germany beginning his "mastermind" group.

I'm not sure about this, but I vaguely remember that some of the people (our gov't) at OKC had worked on the 93WTC bombing-so there might have been an element of revenge there.

[jonathonandjennifer]

It's just a shame that 5,000 or so people had to lose their lives for us to realize that we have been at war for a long time already.

Oh, I think it has been realized by many people, judging from posts and replies here over the last three or more years, that we have been at war with middle eastern terrorists for a long time.

It's just that; with most of the government determined to cover it up so they could campaign on easy issues like free drugs for seniors, with most of the news media being socialist enemies of freedom and of the United States, and with most of the citizens either ignorant of the truth or happy to beleive the lies and watch a video or go shopping; what could we do?

I truly beleive that this forum has been one of the top five or ten institutions keeping a quest for the truth in these topics alive. I could go on, but this is just a reply; I don't want to make it a disertation!

[ninenot]

OK, I'll buy. USN&WR is a credible source. But...

Cui Bono? That is, who benefits by the coverup? Why would Billzebub and J. Sterno keep the M connection out?

Same questions apply to TWA 800.

[poet]

10-29-01?????? Is this a future issue coming out next week?

[OKCSubmariner]

Thanks for the phone number. It has been duly passed along with your reply to interested and capable parties.

You say "Cojones as big as watermelons"? Wow!.

The heat is on.

[Republic]

Finally, just maybe, justice is REALLY going to be served. What was the reporters name who collected all the data on this connection between Tim and middle eastern looking men? She had SIGNED AFFADAVITS to offer the FBI and the Denver office told the OKC office of the FBI NOT, I repeat, NOT to accept her information during the investigation. Sounds as if this nut is going to crack-WIDE OPEN. I pray, if this is true and can be confirmed, that we take action. The clinton administration has hurt us....the FIREMEN and POLICEMEN at the concert in NY this past weekend were RIGHT!

[OKCSubmariner]

BlueDogDemo wrote that Boorda knew enough about OKC that he thinks it specifically got Boorda killed and BLueDog worked directly for him.

Boorda's wife and her family are from OKC and are VERY interested.

[ninenot]

I don't buy the "political gains" argument. With Billzebub and Hildebeeste, it was more likely money--lots of it. He got absolutely nowhere with the 'right-wing-conspiracy' crap, and probably knew way in advance that that line would not sell.

Everything else he did was for money--China, the coal mines, etc. NOW--Pentagon-types: follow the MONEY!!!

[jonathonandjennifer]

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These coincidences are driving me crazy! Please tell me it's just an "unrelated incident!"

[George 666]

This question is addressed to anyone and everyone. Wasn't Ashcroft pushing to get McVeigh executed quickly? Wasn't McVeigh's lawyer suggesting there were other people involved, and there were boxes of information that MIGHT show that, and that delaying McVeigh's execution would be a good idea? I seem to recall that Ashcroft said he would do everything in his power to prevent a delay of execution. This doesn't make sense to me. Does anyone remember? Thanks.

[MPB]

U.S. News is a highly credible source, however this allegation is breathtaking (not that most people ever thought of McVeigh as anything but a patsy for something bigger than himself, anyway).

Nothing really new about much in this story... recall that female OKC reporter who got so much flack for tracking down alot of the details about a "middle east" connection to the OKC bombing? It's just nice that at least there's a smidgen more credibility coming her way now.

[mostlyundecided]

I recently read a comment on an arab comment board - an arab raged on that we are lucky arabs invest so much in America, without arab investment the stock market would have been in much dire straits after 911. If arabs pulled all their investments from America, America's economy would crumble in financial ruin.

I am thinking OKC was a trial run - what happens when you lose a building? How does it affect the economy, the stock market and employment? What happens when a plane crashes? What happens to the airline stock and the amount of travel? What about if a military installation or vehicle or boat were hit? This was their research - little tests who's results would help in planning the ultimate attacks to topple the American economy and buy up the greatly discounted stock and "own" America.

Ok, I'm going to take off the tinfoil hat now, before I really get carried away!

[Reactionary]

Pat Barry is representative of what Cincinnati talk radio has become today. He's is a glaring mediocrity and a nitwit.

[Diddle E. Squat]

hmmmm, bump.