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Arab Men Laughing at World Trade Center Photos in Montclair, NJ - Live Report
Self | 10/21/01 | Atticus

Posted on 10/21/2001 9:50:35 PM PDT by Atticus

This evening I had dinner at an Indian (Hindu) restaurant in Montclair, New Jersey. During the meal, several people at our table were discussing pictures of the World Trade Center (pre-9/11) that were on display at a framing gallery next door. When we left the restaurant, I decided to check the pictures out for myself. It was a wonderful tribute: an American flag surrounded by four or five balck and white posters and photographs of the twin towers taken from different angles, some during the day, some at night.

Then something surreal happened. As we started to walk toward our car, three Arab men in their early 20s passed us. I am no expert in ethnic identity, but I am absoltely sure the men were Arab and definitely not Indian or hispanic. They were speaking to each other in their native tongue. As they walked past the storefront with the pictures of the WTC, one of the men looked at the pictures and then said something to his friends to draw their attention to the pictures. Then the three of them bursted out laughing and walked away. My blood boiled and I shouted at them. I think my words were, "Hey, you think that's funny, you f*#%ing Arabs?" They just waled along, oblivious to me. It was a sad and chilling experience.


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ALL THE CARDS PLAYED BY THOSE SEEKING REPARATIONS for African-American slave descendants, one of the strongest is this: During World War II, those of Japanese descent on the West Coast were herded into camps such as Manzanar, and in 1988 the U.S. Government atoned for this by paying them reparations of $20,000 apiece.
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This is in some ways an apples and oranges comparison. All of the 82,000 people paid reparations in 1988 had been affected directly by heavy-handed government actions. Not a penny in reparations, however, has been paid to their children, grandchildren, or great grandchildren born after World War II. Most Americans probably would agree to pay reparations to anyone who actually was a slave prior to Emancipation during the 1860s - but no former American slaves are today alive.

But look deeper and you will discover a Politically Incorrect alternative history of World War II that argues it was a mistake to pay reparations to Japanese-Americans. If you have the courage to reconsider everything the schools and media taught you to believe about the so-called "American concentration camps" like Manzanar and the WWII "Japanese-American Internment," then read on for a MAGIC carpet ride.

December 7, 1941. The nation of Japan, in the midst of seemingly honorable negotiations with the United States, launches a sneak attack against Pearl Harbor, killing thousands of Americans. Japanese-Americans in the Little Tokyos along the West Coast, largely culturally insular from the communities around them, are instantly viewed with suspicion and mistrust by their neighbors.

If a mysterious enemy can attack Hawaii, is the then-sparsely-populated West Coast also vulnerable? Military planners knew that in 1912 the chief military adviser to Chinese leader Sun Yat-sen, Homer Lea, had predicted that the century would bring a war that would begin with a Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor followed by successful Japanese occupation of parts of America?s West Coast.

About one percent of West Coast residents were of Japanese descent. Were they loyal to the U.S. - or to the nation that attacked us, Japan? And, if in doubt, should this potential Fifth Column be removed from the coast and its military facilities?

Political pressure for such relocation grew quickly. As the very liberal Walter Lippmann wrote in his national newspaper column on February 12, 1942: "It is a fact that the Japanese navy has been reconnoitering the Pacific Coast more or less continually and for a considerable period of time, testing and feeling out the American defenses. It is the fact that communication takes place between the enemy at sea and enemy agents on land. These are facts which we shall ignore or minimize at our peril?. The Pacific Coast is officially a combat zone: some part of it may at any moment be a battlefield. Nobody?s constitutional rights include the right to reside and do business on a battlefield."

These, mind you, were the words not of a jingo racist but of the preeminent Left-liberal American journalist-intellectual of the time, Walter Lippmann, writing coolly amid the fevers of a just-declared war. You can imagine the fears and feelings of other Americans in the heat of that moment. (And, during the war, a Japanese submarine surfaced one night and shelled a small oil facility in Oxnard, California, just north of Los Angeles.)

In the Oval Office, President Franklin D. Roosevelt knew far more than did Lippmann.

In late 1940, cryptographers of the U.S. Army Signal Intelligence Service had cracked "Purple," Japan?s highest level diplomatic code. The intelligence information gained from intercepted Japanese messages was cover-named MAGIC, a name later subsumed under the British intelligence name ULTRA. (Whether this means FDR knew in advance of the attack on Pearl Harbor is grist for another mill.)

MAGIC messages revealed that Japanese espionage networks were spread along the West Coast. You can read many of these decoded messages in the new book MAGIC: The Untold Story of U.S. Intelligence and the Evacuation of Japanese Residents from the West Coast During World War II (Athena Press, Inc., 2001) by the late David D. Lowman, former Special Assistant to the Director of the National Security Agency (popularly known as "the Puzzle Palace"). Lowman oversaw the declassification of the MAGIC Messages for this highest U.S. Government cryptographic intelligence agency.

He noted that not a single official familiar with these Top Secret MAGIC messages disagreed with the course of action FDR took towards Japanese-Americans.

The Japanese Government planned for, "Utilization of our ?Second Generations? and our resident nationals. (In view of the fact that if there is any slip in this phase, our people in the U.S. will be subjected to considerable persecution, and the utmost caution must be exercised," read MAGIC Message #044, which also discussed cooperation "with the German and Italian intelligence organs in the U.S.," as already agreed among these three powers with which the U.S. was formally at war.

The Japanese term for this ?Second Generation? born in the U.S. is Nisei. The "First Generation" is called Isei.

President Roosevelt had to deal with a dilemma similar to one faced by Prime Minister Winston Churchill. British intelligence had cracked the German code and warned Churchill that Coventry was about to be a bombing target. He could have evacuated the city, but German spies would see this and signal that the British had broken Hitler?s secret code. Churchill kept the secret and left thousands at the mercy of Nazi bombs.

MAGIC intercepts gave FDR the knowledge to target specific potential West Coast spying and espionage for Japan. Such pinpoint action, however, could reveal to Japan that we were reading its secret messages. If its cryptographers switched to a new code, we might be unable to decipher it.

To avoid tipping his hand to Japan, President Roosevelt had two choices. He could do little or nothing, thereby leaving potential spies and saboteurs in place. Or he could cover the removal of this risk with a sweeping action that deceptively appeared, as the 1988 reparations measure declared, to come from "racism, war hysteria and a lack of political will."

The 1988 congressional hearings that led to reparations for Japanese-Americans assiduously avoided any mention of then-declassified MAGIC Messages and the risk they revealed. It was by then Politically Incorrect to suggest that FDR might have had good, or at least plausible or prudent, reasons to move against any Japanese-American.

How big was that risk of spying or sabotage perceived to be during the war fever of early 1942? One U.S. intelligence officer sympathetic to Japanese residents, according to Lowman, estimated that "the loyalty to the United States of about a fifth of the Japanese population could not be trusted."

On February 19, 1942, President Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066. Contrary to today?s widespread notions, it made no mention of those with Japanese ancestry. It merely created a zone "from which any or all persons may be excluded," at the discretion of the Secretary of War or appropriate Military Commander. In practice, this exclusion zone included the whole of California, the western halves of Washington State and Oregon, and the southern third of Arizona along the Mexican border.

(The U.S. Supreme Court later affirmed 6-3 that this Executive Order was constitutional because it was "nothing more than an exclusion order," not based on "racism," and because "there were disloyalties" during a time of war with the Empire of Japan.)

Under a nearly 200-year-old Federal Law, no U.S. citizen in America may be "interned," a term that applies only to detention of "enemy aliens." Thousands of Japanese citizens along the West Coast were moved into facilities such as the guarded camp at Tule, California, as were many Nisei who refused to take a loyalty oath to the United States. Many at Tule took part in marches and ceremonies honoring the Emperor of Japan. At war?s end, those at Tule were subject to deportation to Japan, although many asked to remain in the U.S.

More than 110,000 Japanese-American citizens were removed, often on short notice and with little opportunity to bring possessions or secure property, to "Relocation Centers" such as Manzanar near Inyo, California. These were barracks-like cities thrown together to house about 10,000 people.

Japanese-American citizens, at least initially, were free to move inland from these exclusion zones, according to controversial relocation historians such as Lillian Baker. But in wartime 1942 America, those who looked like the enemy usually found it safer to accept the free food, housing, and compatible community of the Relocation Centers than to seek scarce jobs and housing among suspicious and angry Caucasian strangers.

Japanese-American citizens who already lived outside the exclusion zone - e.g., east of Highway 97 in Oregon and Washington State - were not subjected to evacuation, nor of course were those who lived in the Midwest or along the East Coast. In Hawaii, where about 30 percent of the entire population was Japanese-American, there were no Relocation Camps such as Manzanar. (In British Columbia, the Canadian government imposed similar coastal evacuation and controls on Japanese-Canadians, but this reporter has found no evidence that Canada has paid them any reparations.)

Most Americans are surprised to learn that those of Japanese ancestry were not the only ones under suspicion. On February 24, 1942, about 10,000 Italian-American aliens living in California, many of them elderly and disabled, were ordered to evacuate coastal and military zones. Roughly 52,000 Italian-American aliens in California were subjected to an 8 P.M.-6 A.M. curfew and prohibited from traveling more than five miles from their homes. Hundreds of Italian-American citizen fishermen were prohibited from taking their boats to sea, and many of their boats were impounded.

In 1941, New York Yankee slugger Joe DiMaggio had a 56-game hitting streak and was an American hero. The following year his father Giuseppe was among thousands of Italian-Americans told they could not fish in San Francisco Bay or visit the city where he had lived and raised his children.

As then-Congressman Rick Lazio (R.-N.Y.) told a 1999 House of Representatives Hearing on the Wartime Violation of Italian American Civil Liberties Act, "600,000 Italian nationals - most of whom had lived in the United States for decades - were deemed enemy aliens and subject to strict travel restrictions, curfews, and seizures of personal property for no other reason than their heritage." This happened to Italian-Americans on both the East and West Coasts. Even the immigrant gateway Ellis Island was used as an Internment Center for Italian and German nationals.

This, said Italian-American Lazio, is "what we call ?Una Storia Segreta,? which is our ?secret story,?" unknown today even to many Italian-Americans. And Congressman Lazio continued: "There were cases of German Americans who were involved in espionage and helping the Nazis. There were no instances of Italian Americans involved in espionage, who passed on information to any of America?s declared enemies." (Japanese-Americans argue that not one of them during WWII betrayed America. But broadcast propagandist "Tokyo Rose," convicted of treason, was a second-generation Japanese-American from Los Angeles who studied zoology at UCLA.)

Then-House Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde (R.-Ill.) during these hearings observed: "All the Italian-American community wants is the truth to be told. It is not a question of reparations or looking for money or anything like that, but the truth has been obscured and it ought not to be obscured." [Emphasis mine] No reparations have been paid to those of German or Italian ancestry who suffered under U.S. control and relocation policies.

In World War II Internment Camps in Missoula, Montana, and Crystal City, Texas, nationals who were German, Italian, and Japanese lived in equality side by side. Unlike the Relocation Centers, such Internment Camps had barbed wire, lights, and guards to keep people in. More Germans, Italians, and other European "enemy aliens" would be Interned in such camps during the war than Japanese nationals, unless we add the 5,620 Nisei who renounced their U.S. citizenship. (By contrast, of about 19,000 military aged Japanese-American males in Relocation Centers, about 1,200 patriotically volunteered to fight for the U.S. in the war. Just over 20,000 other Japanese-Americans were inducted.)

Work in these Internment Camps, and in Relocation Centers, was reputedly voluntary - albeit rewarded with low $12-19 per month pay comparable to conscripted soldier pay. As the war proceeded, tens of thousands of Japanese-Americans in Relocation Centers were urged and helped to get jobs outside the Centers. Inside the Centers, as provocative revisionist historians such as Lillian Baker assert, were medical and dental facilities, recreational facilities, and schools where children learned and prepared for college. The birthrate in these Centers was higher than elsewhere in the nation, where husbands were away at war.

Was the evacuation of Japanese-Americans from the West Coast an unfair hardship imposed on tens of thousands of patriotic citizens? Yes. Despite government efforts to warehouse, protect, transport, and recompense Japanese-American property, billions of dollars worth of land, businesses, and possessions that these hard-working Americans had honestly earned were lost. An undeniable case can be made for recompensing specific families for property unjustly lost, and under the 1948 Evacuation Claims Act the Federal Government paid over 26,000 claims prior to 1988?s reparations.

But unfair individual losses did not justify $20,000 in reparations to every ethnic Japanese evacuee and internee, revisionist historians argue. Under the politically-convenient 1988 law, notes William Hopwood of the Center for Internee Rights , taxpayers paid reparations for "human suffering" and the United States formally apologized to former enemy aliens now living in Japan, Japanese-Americans who during the war renounced their citizenship, U.S.-born children of Japanese diplomats who went home to Japan during the war, and more than 6,000 babies born in the Relocation Centers during the war who left while still too young to remember the experience. No payments have been made to German or Italian individuals or their families - 14,183 in all -- interned in some cases in the same camps with Japanese who received reparations. And Japan has paid no reparations to Americans it imprisoned and used as slave labor during World War II.

When Japanese-American former U.S. Senator S.I. Hayakawa (R.-Calif.) called these reparations a "wolf-pack of dissident young Japanese-Americans" making an unconscionable raid on the U.S. Treasury, activists called him a "banana," yellow on the outside but white on the inside. And Japan?s government was cynically happy to give tacit support to Leftists demanding reparations from a United States they called racist.

Was the evacuation of Japanese-Americans from the West Coast exclusion zone illegal or unwarranted? The U.S. Supreme Court found it entirely legal and constitutional, and noted that Japanese-Americans in the Relocation Centers had the freedom to leave (but not to return to excluded areas). The MAGIC Message intercepts in 1942 persuaded President Roosevelt that the evacuation was warranted, or at least was prudent and reasonable.

Like today?s critics of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, we are all prone to the fallacy of "historicism," to judging people of a past time by our Monday-morning quarterback knowledge, values, and morals today. Today we know that virtually all Japanese-Americans were loyal and patriotic. But in 1942 with the U.S., Japan, and Nazi Germany all racing to build and use the first atom bomb - and without the comforting knowledge that the U.S. would win that race and the war - would you as President, looking at those MAGIC Messages, have issued Executive Order 9066 or not?

And if you conclude that President Roosevelt made the right decision under the circumstances in 1942, then why did Japanese-Americans deserve reparations? FDR, as a matter of national security, decided that millions of Americans would be conscripted to fight for years overseas (where more than 292,000 would die, and nearly 671,000 would be maimed or wounded for their country). FDR also decided as a precaution for national security that more than 110,000 Japanese-Americans living along the West Coast would in effect be "drafted" to sit out the war, housed and fed at taxpayer expense in homeside Relocation Camps that resembled army camps. Virtually all of them survived the war. As the poet John Milton wrote, "They also serve who only stand and wait." For this, say the revisionists, they got reparations?

141 posted on 10/22/2001 8:54:26 AM PDT by dtom
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To: JoeEveryman
"What did these Arab men say?"

They said that "everyman" is a confused sack of s**t.
No, sorry, I don't have that on tape.

Any other question?

143 posted on 10/22/2001 8:56:02 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: right way right
Two words--Internment camps

I suspect you of being a terrorist. I suggest you be rounded up first.

144 posted on 10/22/2001 8:58:19 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: agitator
That's why they feel safe there. What's up with NJ anyway?
145 posted on 10/22/2001 8:59:19 AM PDT by marty60
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To: Atticus
I wish we could lock these stupid arabs up in a room with some good ole boy rednecks that live around me...haha. They'd take care of them, and not think twice about all the political correctness crap.
147 posted on 10/22/2001 9:08:16 AM PDT by dixiemelody
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To: Atticus
First of all, I didn't say anything about internment camps either (are you responding to someone else's post too?).

You didn't say you assumed they were arabs from their speech. By comparing them to hispanic or indian people it sounded as though you made an incorrect judgement based on appearance.

Regardless of that, I believe your perceptions have been colored by the general stereo-typing of people who are not like you (as is a tradition in this country) - in this case Mid-Easterners.

My point is this, if they were japanese you would have been puzzled by their behavior but you wouldn't have assumed they were engaged in mockery.

Maybe they looked at the picture, and one said:"Boy, the guys who brought those two down, are gonna be glowing in the dark and walking on glass for the next 10,000 years."

And then they all laughed.

148 posted on 10/22/2001 9:08:45 AM PDT by rwb
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To: WileyCoyote22
We did it to the Japanese, we will do it again if necessary. Catch my drift ?

... And you're proud of it !?! </incredulous.
If someone behaves like a savage to others, how can he complain about other savages? </rhetorical question>

149 posted on 10/22/2001 9:21:12 AM PDT by rwb
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To: rwb
Maybe they looked at the picture, and one said:"Boy, the guys who brought those two down, are gonna be glowing in the dark and walking on glass for the next 10,000 years."

I sure wish that is what they said. Sadly, I do not think that is the case. They didn't say much at all. The guy who noticed the pictures said something to draw his friends' attention to the photos. My best guess, and it is a guess, is that he said, "Hey, look at that." I believe it was the very sight of the buildings that evoked the laughter. I don't think they were cracking Osama jokes. If you witnessed it, you might have drawn a different conclusion. Take it for what it's worth.

There have been many reports of Arabs in the United States dancing and cheering at the news of the death and destruction on 9/11. I have heard what I believe are credible reports of dancing at a gas station in Morris County on 9/11, but I have not repeated the details because it is hearsay. We have been told to believe that all of these accounts are false. We are a country of 280 million. This number includes a lot of very bad people: serial killers, child molestors, wife beaters, arsonists, and, yes, terrorists and their sympathizers. Are we so worried about stereotyping people that we find it difficult to believe that there are many people here on our shores that take great pleasure in the mayhem that occurred on 9/11?

150 posted on 10/22/2001 10:13:38 AM PDT by Atticus
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To: Atticus
If you have knowledge of Middle Eastern languages, Arabic is not hard to differentiate from other languages. It has a very distinct sound. I believe you. There are going to be enemies of the United States within our midst, many of them Arabs, who can't help but gloat over September 11th, like the Palestinian doctors in a U.S. hospital who cheered, etc. I'm glad I wasn't there because I would have slapped them and, as a Christian, I would have had to repent about it afterwards. Next time, stay cool, try to get their car license plate and call up INS or food stamps office to make sure they aren't in violation of any laws (praying all the while that they are).
151 posted on 10/22/2001 11:19:44 AM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Republic of Texas
Your attitude sir, is why they are going to nuke us FIRST. We have turned into a nation of wimps, and in the REAL world we currently have to deal with, wimps get killed or enslaved.

Oh, I see. The reason why they will nuke us first is because of the attitudes of people like myself, who doesn't like the idea that people born in this country (and who have made it abundantly clear that they love it and stand against its enemies) should fear their fellow Americans because they supposedly look like the bad guys.

Do some reading of the posts I was responding to. A man who would be thought of as a patriot prior to September 11 was told that he should be interned due to his ethnicity if push comes to shove.

I once worked with a man of Japanese descent surnamed "Ohara." On occasion, memos would be written in which the name was presumed misspelled, and it would be "corrected" by people who would spell the name "O'Hara." It would have been dangerous to have the name "Ohara" in 1942 America, but it is safe now. However, if it was Irish-born immigrant members of the IRA rather than Taliban immigrant members of Al-Qaeda that flew a plane into the WTC and the Pentagon, it would become dangerous all over again because of people who are ready to adopt un-American concepts to "defend" America.

"Wimps get killed or enslaved," you say. Hamza01 told everyone willing to read that he was not a wimp, and he would refuse to be enslaved either by attackers of the U.S., those that would come after his family, or people like WileyCoyote22, who is ready to treat him like an American-born person of Japanese descent if hysteria calls for him to do so.

Reading stuff your post amazes me. FR is a place where people decried the manner in which the Clinton admin used to "use the Bill of Rights for toilet paper," and now some advocate the same practice 59 years after FDR set the record!

What ethnicity are you, Republic? What's your real name? Where do you go to church? Are you ready to be convicted without a trial as an enemy of the state for just being born to a certain family, practicing the "wrong" religion, or just looking the way you do?

152 posted on 10/22/2001 12:24:35 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: Atticus
Imagine being in a foreign country, let's say Romania, not understanding the language, and seeing the Romanians laugh at the photo of the WTC. On the contrary, some Romanians went out of their way to show solidarity with us.

Imagine someone laughing at a photo of Holocaust victims.

Imagine someone laughing at a photo of monstrous Betty Mills running with screaming Elian, or the gun pointed at Elian and Donato.

Imagine someone laughing at a photo of Hiroshima victims.

Imagine someone laughing at a memorial of the men who were victims of the syphilis experiments at Tuskegee Institute.

Imagine someone laughing at a photo of a firing squad about to execute someone, maybe an Afghan woman.

Imagine someone who, like me, believes Matthew Shepard was not singled out for being homosexual, but nevertheless it was a sickening senseless murder, imagine if someone went to a Matthew Shepard memorial and laughed.

Imagine someone laughing at a photo of the kids terrorized at Columbine.

Imagine someone laughing at a photo of Polly Klaas, JonBenet Ramsay, Jesse Dirhising.

Imagine someone laughing during the dramatic parts of the movie, The Killing Fields.

Imagine someone laughing at a photo of Kurds being gassed by Saddam Hussein.

Imagine someone pointing to the Vietnam Wall memorial names and laughing.

153 posted on 10/22/2001 1:44:47 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: sakic
Considering the current atmosphere, why were the Arab men speaking in their native tongue

What an outrage!!


Do you really think that quoting me out of context makes for a good argument? Try again.
154 posted on 10/22/2001 2:46:39 PM PDT by Hemlock
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To: JoeEveryman
Considering the current atmosphere, why were the Arab men speaking in their native tongue and laughing? Am I supposed to trust people who behave that way? If you were in Saudi Arabia after Mecca was destroyed by Americans, would you be dumb enough to do what these Arab men did, and do you think you might be severely beaten or even executed if you tried? Now that you've answered those questions, ask yourself this one. Do you still think that Atticus' suspicions are unwarranted? I don't.

Ahhhh, there in lies your problem...THIS, MY FRIEND, IS NOT...I REPEAT...NOT SAUDIA ARABIA. There are certain rights in this country afforded to those who would be citizens...and I have yet to read where anyone has proven that these three individuals are NOT citizens.

And, what is the current atmosphere??? If you are referring to an "atmosphere" where you mistrust dark skinned individuals that speak a different language and have the audacity to laugh when they see fit....well that's your world my friend. My world doesn't judge based on scant information...However, comments such as yours, and the a number of other posters on this thread give me sufficient evidence to realize that stupidity and paranoia are, indeed, rampant....


First of all, non-citizens have no rights under the Constitution. Furthermore, if these men are citizens, then for their own safety, and out of respect for Americans, they shouldn't be speaking Arabic in public. If fact, if they're citizens, they should be speaking English in public out of respect for this nation.

In case you haven't noticed, let me clue you in on the current "atmosphere" in this country. We are at war with terrorists, and in this current atmosphere of Middle Eastern terrorism, people of Middle Eastern descent, especially young men, who hint at any sort of delight concerning the destruction of the World Trade Center, are suspects. If they fit the profile, they should be treated with suspicion and investigated. Your life may depend upon such "mistreatment" of individuals.

Your post mentions "dark people," yet I never said anything about dark people in general. You're using the classic socialist tactic of putting words into your opponent's mouth (the old "straw man" argument). I resent that you would accuse me of being a racist. I have no problem with "dark people" -- black people, Hispanics, Asians or even Arabs. What I have a problem with are people who want to kill me and my fellow Americans, and if someone acts in a suspicious manner, I'm going to call the FBI, and if it makes sense to confront the suspects, I will. The person who posted this thread probably shouldn't have yelled at the suspects, but I never said that was acceptable.
155 posted on 10/22/2001 3:11:03 PM PDT by Hemlock
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To: L.N. Smithee
I wasn't referring to American citizens in my post, which makes your response irrelevant. I was referring to the terrorists who commited the WTC attack. Most of whom are not in this country, but some of whom are.

One of the terrorists who was recently convicted of the first WTC bombing IS an American citizen who lived in Arlington, Texas, home of the Texas Rangers and about 30 mi. from my house. If a few folks get inconveinenced because of the need to profile them by age, gender and race, tough cookies. (All of the terrorists are young, to early middle aged Arabic men.)

If you fit the profile, and you are an American patriot, it might be frustrating, but PERFECTLY understandable if you are profiled. If we have a rash of terrorist attacks done by white, male Real Estate agents, I'll understand if I am viewed with suspicion.

158 posted on 10/22/2001 6:45:38 PM PDT by Republic of Texas
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To: Hemlock
You sound like a politician.
159 posted on 10/22/2001 6:57:56 PM PDT by sakic
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To: danzaroni
I also know good solid wonderful Muslim Americans and my heart goes out to them. These are cruel times for them.

On the other hand those who are terrorist need to be turned over to the FBI. If you suspect someone, take the license number and call your local FBI.

We are the dots the FBI must connect.

A sad experience of what? Your racism? You admit that you didn't understand them. You saw them laugh, identified them as Arabic, and assumed the worse. There is a large contingent of Christian Arabs (I'm one), and a larger contingent of Muslims who hate bin Laden as much as we all do. They could have said something offensive. And just as likely, they could have made a crack that had you understood it, you would have laughed along with them.

160 posted on 10/22/2001 7:03:44 PM PDT by GOPJ
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