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Victory for American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG - Probation Continues
www.JudicialWatch.org ^ | ALOHA RONNIE, Witness

Posted on 10/19/2001 4:52:04 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE

.."No matter what happens, I did nothing wrong".. stated American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG just as his Court Hearing before Federal Judge MANUEL "Loose Cannon" REAL was due to commence 1/2 hour late in Los Angeles Federal Courthouse this morning.

...JOHNNY CHUNG had been brought to Court over his 3,000 hrs CHINA-GATE Probation Sentence brought by this Judge, that he has completed over 2,000 hrs of in 2 years, because his new Probation Supervising CAL-TRANS was refusing to assign him the Work that would finish his Probation Sentence. Confusing...? Not where CHINA-GATE and the Democrats in California State Government are concerned.

...Enter Judicial Watch's Judge Monitoring Program Manager and Former Los Angeles Prosecutor STERLING "ERNIE" NORRIS who filed to become JOHNNY's Associate Attorney to literally sit alongside his present Democrat FootSoldier Attorney BRIAN SUN..at JOHNNY's request.

...An understanding came during this Hearing between Att. SUN and the Prosecuting Asst. U.S. Attorney O'BRIEN, yes he of .."Just Call 911, Johnny".. & CHINA-GATE's KingPin JAMES RIADY .."Get out of Jail Free".. Hearing in March of 2001.

...In this understanding JOHNNY was taking responsibility for his part in a "Communications Breakdown" between he and CAL-TRANS. To which Judge REAL stated .."Things will be done my way, not JOHNNY CHUNG's way...!"

...In the end he ordered the Probation Dept to STOP treating Probationer JOHNNY CHUNG in any "Special Way" as it has been doing thru supervising CAL-TRANS' assigning a third party to keep track of JOHNNY's Probrationary hours ..because CAL-TRANS didn't want to. This had put JOHNNY CHUNG in the Middle ...probably by design ..as it stopped him from being assigned the Community Service Work he needed to do in order to finish his 3,000 hrs Probation ..earning him a trip to Los Angeles Federal Court. A Probation which is 7.5 times Federal Probation Guidlines as assigned by Judge REAL.

...A Good Crowd of 30 or 40 people was on hand in Court of JOHNNY's Supporters from his Church -&- YMCA he did Community Service in, his Family, Friends, Talk Radio Listeners -&- Freepers 'goldilucky' -&- 'ALOHA RONNIE' ...to support his and Judicial Watch's Fight for CHUNG's continued Freedom.

...What kind of -Fight for Freedom- was it...?

...Judge REAL's parting shot at JOHNNY CHUNG while granting a continuation of his .."Same Probation as before"..

.."You can't continue doing what you're doing or you are going to Jail, JOHNNY CHUNG"... that's how close.

American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG, in an Era of American Heroes, remains a Free Man this Day.


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To: BeAChooser
What? Are you suggesting that Judicial Watch did not file the petition as their press report states? Well they did ... at least according to WorldNetDaily on THURSDAY FEBRUARY 12 1998.

No, I am suggesting that you have made an assertion and haven't backed it up with a primary sourced document - Hill's deposition. I am trying to cut through the JW clutter and go to a reliable source for your claim. I don't trust secondary sources, particularly Judical Watch.

101 posted on 10/21/2001 9:29:33 AM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: miss print
Many thanks to you and your hubby for helping Johnny Chung and for spreading the truth about the corruption that still stinks in our society.
102 posted on 10/21/2001 9:35:07 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: BeAChooser
Just as I suspected. This statement of Nolanda Hill not only doesn't state that Ron Brown was going to rat out the Clinton administration, it shows that despite her pleadings, Brown became even more aggressive in DEFENDING the Clinton administration. You see why primary sourced documents are important?

Affidavit of Nolanda Butler Hill

103 posted on 10/21/2001 9:44:37 AM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
...Spacious Argument. KLAYMAN sued in order to get his Mother the proper care she needed. Sometimes the most un-loving actions are truly the most loving of all...

...4-LOVE is the Only Realtity and...

...GOD is LOVE.

104 posted on 10/21/2001 11:01:21 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: VA Advogado
FYI; I didn't feel I was, "attacking you," nieghbor.

I stated how I felt, having followed the dialog. Period.
FWIW; I'm now wondering why you don't do your own research if your such a stickler for *official* documentation?
You might start by looking over Alamo Girl's archives.

As far as I'm concerned, you can be as skeptical, suspicious as you damned well please...more power to you; knock yourself out.

As for LK suing his Mother?
I'm sure there was a good explaination justifing his behavior; not unlike best friends suing each other because one or the other is covered for an uninsured motorist??

There're details here to the story we've not heard, my friend.
Frankly, I do not believe one word coming from the mouths and/or pens of the Lamestream media whereas (apparently), you do.

And it was in the Lamestream...The Sink Emporer's Liberal Lamestream mind-you, where whatever stories had been written detailing this matter, had originated.
Of course, the slimey, disgraceful Liberals & their Associated Press worms didn't have any grudges, agendas, or for that matter *any* accusations of ever being anything more than a piss-poor sycophant pack of Liberal quislings now, eh.

See?
I'm skeptical & suspicious, too.

All in one's POV.

105 posted on 10/21/2001 11:06:24 AM PDT by Landru
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To: VA Advogado; miss print; Landru
...Primary Source =

...RENO personally called KLAYMAN to postpone RON BROWN's Judicial Watch Depostion for a week about his receiving $400,000 from Communist Vietnam for then DNC Chairman Sen. CHRIS DODD...

...to "Allow" BROWN to go on a sudden "Emergency" Trip to Bosnia for President CLINTON =

...RON BROWN never heard from again by anyone =

...Primary Source.

106 posted on 10/21/2001 11:11:39 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: BeAChooser
GREAT POST!!!!
107 posted on 10/21/2001 11:14:44 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: VA Advogado
I am lacking tack because I ask for a better source than Larry Klayman? A man who has sued his own mother?

I challenged you to name ONE instance where Klayman lied in a press release about Chinagate or Filegate and you haven't. Probably because you can't. Yet I could name hundreds of facts in those releases that are borne out by published sworn affidavits, court documents, interviews with the people concerned, other witnesses, and so on. Like most ardent Klayman detractors, you try and assert that everything he ever did was a lie just because he currently is not acting like you would wish. Which makes me wonder why you are so eager to throw out some of the most damning evidence found against Clinton and the DNC. Perhaps because you are a democRAT?

ALL you can come up with is an accusation involving his mother that you probably don't know any details about (because IF you did you would be using it as an example of Klayman's GOOD character instead). In fact, I challenge you to cite ANY halfway legitimate source that details the circumstances of WHY Klayman sued his mom. I doubt you will.

No, I am suggesting that you have made an assertion and haven't backed it up with a primary sourced document - Hill's deposition. I am trying to cut through the JW clutter and go to a reliable source for your claim. I don't trust secondary sources, particularly Judical Watch.

Judicial Watch is NOT a secondary source ... it's case is the very REASON Hill testified. Klayman is an officer of the court. He was ASKING the questions during the testimony. As to why I can't provide the deposition, the reason is simple ... it is under a court order seal and furthermore the testimony was done in secret (no reporters in attendance). Now don't you suppose that Hill would have come forth to deny that she ever said such an inflamatory remark if she didn't make it? I believe that Klayman on at least one occasion even stated this with Nolanda present. Funny how she wouldn't deny it then. Funny how no other liberal media outlet, hating Klayman like they do, would pick up a denial and publish it on the front page. Funny how the three judge panel didn't reprimand Klayman for making the claim in his request to reopen the Brown case. Again, you are just full of hot air because (I suspect) you don't like the fact that Klayman exposed Clinton and the DNC for the crooks they are. Again, I challenge you to show ONE INSTANCE where a statement Klayman made about Chinagate, Filegate, or the death of Brown was proven untrue ... by ANYONE. I suspect you can't.

Just as I suspected. This statement of Nolanda Hill not only doesn't state that Ron Brown was going to rat out the Clinton administration, it shows that despite her pleadings, Brown became even more aggressive in DEFENDING the Clinton administration. You see why primary sourced documents are important?

Do you honestly believe that was ALL she said about the crimes of Clinton and the DNC is that affidavit? All you demonstrate is your ignorance of the facts. If you were even halfway informed you would know that that affidavit was made BEFORE her secret testimony was given. Notice the part about her wanting it sealed for fear of retaliation? Only 3 people knew she was going to testify before Lamberth. One was in the Whitehouse and isn't it curious that only a week before her testimony was to begin she was charged with a crime ... charges which were apparently hastily compiled. People should get on the web and search for more details about this testimony. It is an eye opener about the way the Clinton campaign funding machine really worked ... selling out this country just to get reelected. And, as I maintain, murdering a Secretary of Commerce and more than 34 others just to keep what they were doing from being described in court by Ron Brown.

108 posted on 10/21/2001 11:26:49 AM PDT by BeAChooser
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To: VA Advogado; Judicial Watch; ALOHA RONNIE; johnny chung
#69. For the life of my, I can't understand why you can't see that Johnny Chung came clean! He didn't lie to save his hide and "flashy lifestyle" as John Dean did. He really didn't understand that there was a legal problem with money/access until he saw his name/face plastered all over the front of the papers. It was his Christian heart that made him come clean. Where is John Dean's heart? Where is the heart of the other 126 people called by Congress to testify in the illegal campaign contributions?

Johnny didn't have to do anything to help the Long Beach Patriots save the Long Beach Naval Station from being taken over by the Chicoms - but he did. The point is: Johnny didn't have to do anything to help anyone else, but he has gone over and above the call of duty in his attempt to make restitution. THAT is what makes him a hero to all of us.

Remember, too, it was Judicial Watch that uncovered Chinagate and John Huang in the Ron-Brown Commerce Dept. Judicial Watch may have in DC the transcript of Nolanda Hill's testimony, which you would eat if it were printed here.

It was Judicial Watch that gave Johnny Chung the first opportunity to tell his own story fully and completely - without any prompting, in Oct. '99. I believe Larry Klayman said, immediately prefacing Johnny's speech, that up until that time the left-wing media poo-pooed anything Johnny said because they claimed he was coached, etc. (something to do with a VRWC?). Immediately after that speech, the Probation Dept. came down hard and heavy on Johnny by taking him away from performing community service at his church, increasing his weekly hours to be performed, AND telling Johnny that he had to tell them PRIOR to his making any future public speeches, TV/radio appearances, etc.

Johnny, in true super-hero fashion, has taken all the abuse dished out by the "mean-spirited" Dem. probation officers and never fought back. I believe the precedent for his behavior can be found in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, where Johnny's mentor and Saviour, Jesus Christ, can be found reacting to Pontius Pilate in a like manner. Yeah, Johnny is a hero to a lot of us, thank you very much. NEVER FORGET!!

miss print

109 posted on 10/21/2001 11:32:46 AM PDT by miss print
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To: VA Advogado; ALOHA RONNIE; Fred Mertz
#104. Larry Klayman sued his mother because his STEP-FATHER had gained control of his GRANDMOTHER's money. Larry had to sue his mother to gain control of his Grandmother's money so that she could have the proper care she needed. Evidently, the grandmother wasn't eating because she couldn't feed herself and, as a result, was wasting away. This is the grandmother Larry knew and loved. He and his wife Stephanie would go to her hospital room - after they gained control of the grandmother's money - and sit and feed her so that she was getting proper nourishment.

Hell, I would have sued my mother for the same reason IF I had had a money-grubbing step-father who was keeping necessary care from my grandmother. Get real! You would have done the same thing IF your grandmother meant as much to you as Larry's did to him!! Someone told me that this is on JW's website - for anyone and everyone to see the details. If Klayman were hiding something, why would he put it on his website, for Pete's sake!?

110 posted on 10/21/2001 11:49:13 AM PDT by miss print
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To: Judicial Watch; ALOHA RONNIE; johnny chung; miss print; BeAChooser; B4Ranch; Landru; sinkspur
For the life of my, I can't understand why you can't see that Johnny Chung came clean! He didn't lie to save his hide and "flashy lifestyle" as John Dean did. He really didn't understand that there was a legal problem with money/access until he saw his name/face plastered all over the front of the papers. It was his Christian heart that made him come clean.

I am sorry Miss Print.  I have to politely disagree with you.  From the research I've done in the past few days, I am more and more convinced that Chung is about as far as you can get from being a Christian or a naive man. Its immoral and disgraceful to our country and our flag to hold this man out to be anything less than another piece of scum that serviced the DNC. I think he visited the oval office more than Monica. Please be reminded of Chung's sordid history:



111 posted on 10/21/2001 12:05:26 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: BeAChooser
Do you honestly believe that was ALL she said about the crimes of Clinton and the DNC is that affidavit?

Be, you're the one that put so much faith in Judical Watch's claims regarding the claims Hill made in her affidavit. I simply pulled up the affidavit and showed that not only did it NOT say what you (or JW) said it said, it really says the opposite of what you (or JW) have claimed. Again I emphasize how important the primary source documents are in cutting through the smoke of special interests.

112 posted on 10/21/2001 12:09:25 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado; miss print; Landru; Snow Bunny; FallGuy; BeAChooser; johnny chung; kristinn
...While -The Enemy Within- HILLARY CLINTON hired in China Army Spy JOHN HUANG into our U.S. Commerce Dept so he could FaX away our National Security Secrets for China Army Money...

..HILLARY CLINTON was trying to blame JOHNNY CHUNG for her own push to turn our U.S. Long Beach Navy Base over to the Communist Chinese for China Army Money after our Patriot Battle commenced in Long Beach to stop her.

...American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG is the only one who took it upon himself to fight back at HILLARY CLINTON by telling the country on National TV the very night EGYPT AIR Flight 990 went down that he was NOT the One in the White House who did this as he then asked back .."WHO IS...?"

...Shortly afterwards he personally went down to the -Friend of HILLARY- Long Beach Mayor BEVERLY O'NEILL's City Council Meeting to ask them the very same question before TV Cameras as the Glendale/LaCanada-Flintridge Fires above Los Angeles TV Stations "Suddenly" cranked up just as his Anti-HILLARY Long Beach TV Appearance was due to be covered on TV Nightly News Shows = NO SHOW.

Signed:..A Witness/Vet-Battle of LONG BEACH NAVY BASE 1997-2001

113 posted on 10/21/2001 12:42:36 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG is the only one who took it upon himself to fight back at HILLARY CLINTON by

. . . giving her aid a $50,000 check? I wish I had enemies like that Ronnie.

114 posted on 10/21/2001 12:44:48 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado; miss print; BeAChooser; Landru; Carl/NewsMax; goldilucky; reformjoy; Snow Bunny
...It's a BEFORE-AFTER Deal, VA, as American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG stopped what he was previously doing, turned around and fought back to correct his wrongs...

...while China Army Spies JOHN HUANG -&- JAMES RIADY continued to give China Army Money to Leading DEMOCRATS that was NEVER RETURNED by them...

..(This according to RIADY's own Testimony under oath at his March 19, 2001 China-Gate Plea Agreement Hearing in Los Angeles)..

...even though these Leading DEMOCRATS ...like DIANE FEINSTEIN, BARBARA BOXER -&- LORETTA SANCHEZ were telling all Americans on National TV that they had.

Signed:..A Witness/RIADY's March 19, 2001 China-Gate Plea Agreement Hearing

115 posted on 10/21/2001 1:03:16 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
...It's a BEFORE-AFTER Deal, VA, as American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG stopped what he was previously doing, turned around and fought back to correct his wrongs...

So Johnny Chung is a hero because he stopped when he got busted. . and I mean busted in a big way. . so that makes him a saint? Good God man. . .the guy was in bed with HILLARY CLINTON. The guy was in bed with RON BROWN. The guy was in bed with BILL CLINTON. . the DNC. . . John Kerry. One a rat, always a rat.

116 posted on 10/21/2001 1:17:18 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado; ALOHA RONNIE; goldilucky; Snow Bunny; Fred Mertz
Well, DUH! Everyone knows that Johnny did those things. No one IN THE GOVERNMENT ever asked him WHO told him to do those things! Sweetie, it was Hitlery & Co., namely the DNC. We all know those things. Neither Hitlery nor the DNC ever returned any of his money any more than the DNC returned any of James Riady's dinero - even though they said did in the major media.

Same thing with Hitler and Peter Paul. Peter Paul put up about $1.9 million for Hillary's Senate run AND gave her a $2,000 personal check. Hillary claims that all the money was returned to Peter Paul. Yeah, only the 2 grand check - NOT the rest of the money - which has NEVER been accounted for.

When Peter Paul asked Clinton for a pardon for past sins (after forking over the $1.9 million), Clinton cronies at DNC said, "That'll be another $200,000" and didn't bother to add "please." Peter Paul balked at forking over any more money to these inveterate liars and money-grubbers. Before Peter Paul went to Brazil, he put together for Judicial Watch a video of all the appearances of Clinton cronies, including Hillary herself, lauding Peter Paul for all that he had done for her, etc., ad nauseum, ad infinitum. (One of the comments Hillary made on the video was that she had to be careful about her e-mail.)

Speaking of Judicial Watch and Peter Paul, didn't JW file a lawsuit in June in LA on his behalf? Surely, something must be shaking loose in that case about now. Inquiring minds want to know! NEVER FORGET!!

117 posted on 10/21/2001 1:26:34 PM PDT by miss print
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To: miss print
Speaking of Judicial Watch and Peter Paul, didn't JW file a lawsuit in June in LA on his behalf? Surely, something must be shaking loose in that case about now. Inquiring minds want to know! NEVER FORGET!!

So Chung, like Paul is a 'jilted lover' or like a Taliban foot soldier who's loyalty is available to the highest bidder? Is there really any way you can distingush them with a straight face? The more passionate I become in this debate the clearer and clearer it becomes that Chung just a puppy from the same evil DNC litter. What moral justification is there for anyone, never mind a conservative, a Christian, to defend him? I hate arguing with you guys because I know you're all good people.

118 posted on 10/21/2001 1:53:32 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado; miss print; Landru
NEVER FORGET

...as -The Enemy Within- HILLARY CLINTON was nearly ..BOOO'ed.. off the Stage by Hero New York Firemen, Rescue Workers and Policemen in last night's Madison Square Garden PAUL McCARTNEY Fundraiser Event held in their Honor while chanting at HILLARY about the Airstrikes on America on Sept. 11, 2001 that flattened their 2 Twin Towers...

.."It's all your Fault, It's all your Fault"...just like American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG has been doing for years.

...This is an Evil-Doer Within HILLARY...who thanked JOHNNY CHUNG for the $50,000 he gave her thru her White House Chief of Staff -&- shortly afterward out of the way Paris, France resident ..MAGGIE WILLIAMS.. by setting up the then Secretary of the Navy to blame JOHNNY CHUNG for her own push to give our Communist Enemy Red China our U.S. Long Beach Navy Base for China Army Money. This is what alerted JOHNNY CHUNG to see the forest for the CLINTON White House Trees and to turn on her first.

...It was THIS that prompted a move by JOHNNY on a HILLARY who was being properly nailed in the Media by the Patriots of Long Beach who wouldn't stand still for the TREASON she was committing in Long Beach, California.

...as BILL CLINTON is now walking up and down the Streets of New York City telling absolute strangers about Sept. 11th...

.."It ain't my Fault, It ain't my fault"...!!!!

...Oh, but it IS, it IS ...and Americans are all seeing just what JOHNNY CHUNG saw years ago -&- and has been paying for ever since BIG TIME...

...right up to 10:00AM last Friday Morning in a Los Angeles Federal Courtroom.

Signed:..A Witness/JOHNNY CHUNG's October 19, 2001 Los Angeles Probation Hearing

NEVER FORGET

119 posted on 10/21/2001 2:50:19 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: miss print
Thanks miss print!

120 posted on 10/21/2001 3:00:14 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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