Posted on 10/18/2001 5:52:47 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9
That's actually what I'm considering...what should I expect to pay? Slightly used is OK.
Tounge in check aside, a Glock CAN catch on a thread in a pocket and CAN accidentally discharge if not holstered. Sig's have too much trigger pull strength and Barettas and H&Ks can be carried locked.
If Glock would put an external safety on their weapons, they would gain so much market share that H&K would stop selling handguns in the U.S. the way they do now.
I have a Taurus 92F, which is the copy of the Beretta. Beretta had opened a plant in Brazil, and shortly thereafter was awarded the US Military contract for sidearms. The hitch was, that they had to be manufactured in the US. Beretta sold their plant in Brazil to Taurus (who was a gun Manufacturer in Brazil for some time) along with all the machinery, as well as the rights to build the 92 series Beretta pistols. As far as quality goes, you won't have any trouble at all out of either the 92 auto's or the Taurus revolvers (which many are, by the way, copies of S &W's). I have heard of some problems from some of the newer PT series auto's, but in every single case I have heard of where a gun owner had a problem with one, Taurus bent over backwards to make it right. I consider Taurus a middle tier gun, but their price makes them very desirable. In short, I wouldn't hesitate to reccomend a Taurus to a friend.
3) Can Glocks be carried holsterless? I have heard yea and nay on that one.
I have just recently noticed a clip that is now available for the glock, so you can carry it clipped to your belt. I would not carry a clipped Glock in "condition one" on my belt. The Glock has no manual safety, and the only safety mechanism in a Glock is mounted in the middle of the trigger. Bad idea to carry an un-secured Glock "cocked, locked, and ready to rock". I can just imagine someone trying to squeeze into their car at the mall where some other a$$hole has parked right on top of you. ooooh, that's a bad thought! Peace.
As a person who has owned both Glocks and SIGs and have put thousands of rounds through both, I find your remarks amusing. I'll take a SIG over a Glock any day of the week.
If I can find it, I'll post a url of a page which outlines the problems of the Glocks (especially the Kb's). I highly recommend the SIG 220 and the smaller and lighter SIG 245. Both are .45 ACP's and both will serve you well.
I say the following from personal experience. Own a Glock at your own risk.
Mike
I own a Glock 22, a Kimber, and a HK USP 45 Compact.
When I was looking for a gun that I could drag through the mud I bought the Glock and HK. I prefer the trigger of the Kimber though the HK trigger is not far behind. The Kimber provides a slim design that makes it ideal for concealment. Glocks are also slim and easy to carry. The HK tends to be wider and a little more difficult to hide but it is possible. Select caliber wisely. I selected 40 and 45 due to there ability to stop targets and they provide enough kick to make practice shooting enjoyable. I owned a 9mm once and was not happy with the power of the bullet. All this being said both guns are top notch guns.
Horse Hockey! Most out of the box factory firearms in defensive calibers have intrinsically similar potentials for accuracy. With a handgun like this, it's the shooter that counts. I have owned two Glock 45's. One was a M21 and one a M30. They were both of them, superior shooters with excellent accuracy. I currently own and carry a Glock M27 subcompact .40 caliber. A great all purpose gun and caliber. Small, accurate and unobtrusive in hot weather. I usually stoke it with the prefrangible MagSafe load. But if I feel like I'm going into a potential trouble area, I won't leave home without a 45. Again, also loaded with MagSafe rounds.
I also have three 1911 variants. One of each of the most popular sizes: Government, Commander and Micro. Of these, the micro has proven the most unreliable and I will probably get rid of it. I have found (and the folks at Wilson Combat agree with me in writing) that the 1911 style design becomes a flawed and unreliable design when the barrel length goes under four inches. They can be perfect, but most if not all require some gunsmithing work to get them to that place. My ideal 1911 at this point would be a Kimber CDP Compact 45. With a four inch Commander sized slide/barrel and an Officer's size frame. That would be accurate and highly concealable. I ALSO like the Sig P245 compact and the Beretta M8045 both in std and mini configurations. I think they stopped making the mini-cougar recently.
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