Kimber or Glock.

Myself

[Double Tap]

I believe they are made in the Phillipines(sp?). Go to www.1911forum.com, they have a forum open on Charles Daly 1911's.

[Liberty Ship]

Stick with .45. If you are going to carry concealed, Glock 36 is the way to go. Not only is the pistol slimmer, but so are the extra mags. Get a Fobus paddle holster. You won't know you are carrying. If you are not going to carry, get the 21. HK and Sig are great guns, but I'm not happy with the double (1st shot)/single(remaining shots) action trigger transition. 230 gr. Hydra Shocks or Golden Sabers, by the way.

[SCARED]

thanks

[X-USAF]

The Glock 21 in 45 ACP is an outstanding weapon. Simple, light, and accurate. I replaced my adjustable sight with a fixed one, and I added a Hogue grip. Even though it has a double stacked magazine, a 45's grip never seemed to have the correct proportion of length versus width. The Hogue solves that. Don't forget the ammo, 185 gr silvertips, as a minimum. I also carry without a holster, so there is nothing up the pipe. Practice will allow you to chamber and fire accurately and quickly.

[SirFishalot]

My carries are a highly reworked Kimber Ultra, a Sig 245, a Glock 36, and my newest and definite favorite Para-Ord. 6.45 LLDA. The 6.45 is a double action that has a trigger that is 1 of the sweetest I've ever used, you'd almost swear it was a single.

If I had to choose between the Glock and stock Kimber I would choose the Glock. Kimbers are real nice for limited use but if you shoot like me you will wear it out fast because of the way the internal parts are made. They are a molded cast metal composite thus the lower cost. I had mine gutted and put all new machined hard steel parts and it is great now.

[LibTeeth]

The polygonal rifling of the Glock achieves slightly higher velocities out of short barrels than conventional rifling. However, they lead up with cast bullets. Glocks are real workhorse guns. 1911 designs are also excellant. Both have ready spare parts availability and a huge market base. Something to consider when free trade is restricted. Glocks and 1911s and to some extant Berettas will be kept maintained easier than less common designs. Plenty of aftermarket support that S&W, taurus, Sig, HK and others do not have. BTW, HK USPs are also excellant high quality handguns.

[bvw]

The Kimber (or the Sig) any hangun with a visble hammer .. these sight and aim much quicker than a hidden hammer gun, especially a Glock with those side to side engravings on the back panel of the slide.

[nkycincinnatikid]

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[boris]

I have never like Glock. I'm told it is a fine weapon, but I dislike the ergonomics, which to me are uniformly bad.

It just does not "feel right" in my hand; too blocky and square.

And I HATE that silly double trigger with the lamentable "safe action". Gimme a single-action or double action pistol any day.

--Boris

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

Definitely not badmouthing glock or kimber, but check out the new Taurus PT145 millenium.

Yea Travis, I know, you don't like the trigger. But when the adrenaline is pumping you won't notice the trigger isn't glass smooth.

[sonofatpatcher2]

Re: I think you will find that a 45 will be both bigger and heavier than your 9mm. In addition, you will have reduced accuracy.

That depends on who is on the trigger. If you cannot shoot straight, caliber is meaningless.

[X-USAF]

Interesting observation on the markings on the rear of the slide. I have never had a problem, but I can see how some may. Then again, I am a cross eyed shooter. I shoot right handed, but aim with the left eye. Maybe my "handicap" (I shoot very well this way and over the years I have tried the normal sight alignment to no avail) overcomes the distraction that hinders others.

[CIApilot]

Glock, definitely.

[amadeus]

I own and carry the Kimber Compact CDP in .45 . It is VERY accurate, easy to shoot, and sturdy. I wouldn't trade it for ANY weapon and I know it won't take more than an accurate 'double tap' to stop any threat.

[NY.SS-Bar9]

1) Thanks.

2) Does Taurus make a quality firearm? I always thought of them as cheap S&W knockoffs.

3) Can Glocks be carried holsterless? I have heard yea and nay on that one.

[fourdeuce82d]

I've got a Kimber Stainless Covert- don't think they make them anymore- but I love it- put a couple thousand rounds through it, no problems so far.

I also have a glock 19- like it just fine, but prefer the 1911 trigger, with external safety.

Kimber/GLock are both great guns.

[tarawa]

I'm sure Glocks are fine guns (other than blowing up on you), but I would never have one. I carry a Kimber now, and was carrying an HK USPc 40. Either one of these would be an excellent firearm to purchase. HKs are probably the most durable and thoroughly tested firearms on the market. The 40 caliber can be a little more difficult to get good accuracy on, due to a very snappy recoil. 9mm pistols are extremely accurate, but unless you can get your hands on some +p+ ammo, you won't get the knockdown performance of a .45. If you can get a Kimber, do so. Otherwise, you might want to look at the HK USP series. Stay away from the "drastic plastic" or "combat tupperware", though.

[PatrioticAmerican]

kimber in 40! ;>

[PatrioticAmerican]

"Can Glocks be carried holsterless?"

NO way! It does not have a safety. The only safety on the Glock is to keep your finger off the trigger.

[MindBender26]

re: Holsterless Glock. Would not advise. Have my 27 in a "pocket pouch."