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1 posted on 10/17/2001 1:55:41 PM PDT by Admiral_Zeon
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To: Admiral_Zeon
Your friend is obviously a simpleton (economically), so I recommend "The Incredible Bread Machine." I hope it is still in print. Other than that, investigate Hayek and von Mises. Sorry for no URL, but the refutations are too long, detailed, and complex for treatment on a web page.
2 posted on 10/17/2001 2:00:47 PM PDT by jammer
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To: Admiral_Zeon
http://www.thesovietunionnolongerexists.com
3 posted on 10/17/2001 2:00:54 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: Admiral_Zeon
here.
4 posted on 10/17/2001 2:02:41 PM PDT by glock rocks
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To: Admiral_Zeon
Pearls before swine.
5 posted on 10/17/2001 2:03:34 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Admiral_Zeon
I've seen some proof. I beleive it's called "The world". Some like to refer to it as "modern civilization".
6 posted on 10/17/2001 2:05:10 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: Admiral_Zeon
Go to the History Channel online and do a search on Genocide, Nazism, Communism, and Socialism. If history isn't repleat with examples of their heinous crimes, I'd suggest the DSA homepage, the Socialist Internationale, the Black Panthers, Aztlan online, the Shining Path(what a bunch of winners), current news from Hugo Chavez's Venezuela, NARAL, or any Luddite organization. Your 'friend' is an idiot.
7 posted on 10/17/2001 2:05:16 PM PDT by Darheel
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To: Admiral_Zeon
You need new friends.
9 posted on 10/17/2001 2:07:20 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Admiral_Zeon
Just tell him the Ant and the Grasshopper story.
10 posted on 10/17/2001 2:08:52 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Admiral_Zeon
The Cato Institute has several papers on why socialism doesn't work in various aspects of government.

The big reason, from my vantage point, is that socialism removes profit motive. People will simply not work if they will get money/goods regardless.

11 posted on 10/17/2001 2:09:07 PM PDT by Tree of Liberty
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To: Admiral_Zeon
How about choosing your friends more carefully?
12 posted on 10/17/2001 2:09:18 PM PDT by cactmh
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To: Admiral_Zeon
Kick em in the gonads and consider the argument won.
14 posted on 10/17/2001 2:10:38 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Admiral_Zeon
Here's my contribution for your retort assignment:
60 Hard Truths about "Liberals"
Source: Deb's Excellent Political Pages

Colonel David Crockett: "Not Yours To Give"
Source: U.S. Rep. Ron Paul Website; Published: Unknown
Author: David Crockett

The Pursuit of Liberty --- The Price of Free Corn
Source: The Liberty Valley Forge; Published: 1997
Author: Frank Redmond

The Something Undermining Our Nation
Source: WorldnetDaily; Published: March 19, 1999
Author: Holly Swanson


16 posted on 10/17/2001 2:11:33 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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Socialism/Communism and Mass Murder
18 posted on 10/17/2001 2:12:28 PM PDT by Reelect President Dubya
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To: Admiral_Zeon
Have them name a SUCCESSFUL socialistic country that has lasted.....and that hasn't destroyed its people, and that isn't currently re-thinking its ways (i.e. Sweden).
19 posted on 10/17/2001 2:12:38 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: Admiral_Zeon
Read the book, "The Road to Serfdom".
20 posted on 10/17/2001 2:12:45 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Admiral_Zeon
How many did communist regimes murder?
21 posted on 10/17/2001 2:14:58 PM PDT by Reelect President Dubya
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He's got you there. Socialism has worked very well for the rulers who've used it.

Stalin - Soviet Socialism
Hitler - National Socialism
Mao Tse Tung - Marxist Socialism

There's no better way to control the masses than with fear. Today it's being used to spread social and economic injustice to the masses under the guise of a paradise on earth. You know, take what the other guy has and you'll be happy. The gulf between rich(ruling elite) and poor(the rest) only grows under Socialism. Check history for more detailed analysis.

22 posted on 10/17/2001 2:15:58 PM PDT by martian_22
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To: Admiral_Zeon
Tell him/her to read Animal Farm by George Orwell. Some animals are more equal than others.
23 posted on 10/17/2001 2:16:08 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: Admiral_Zeon
I'm guessing your name comes from the Mobile Suit Gundam anime saga. Great series. :) I especially like the recent 08th MS Team mini series.
24 posted on 10/17/2001 2:19:09 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Admiral_Zeon
I'd also suggest Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith
26 posted on 10/17/2001 2:21:06 PM PDT by Tree of Liberty
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