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Science Stunned by Virgin of GuadalupeĀ“s Eyes
Zenit News Org ^ | January 14, 2001 | Zenith News Org

Posted on 10/16/2001 10:09:15 PM PDT by topher

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To: Salvation

Blast from the past ....


81 posted on 12/12/2006 10:27:04 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ppaul

As you can see, the images are as clear as a bell. The third guy from the right even has an Applebee's receipt sticking out of his jacket pocket.

http://home.inreach.com/bstanley/eye.htm

82 posted on 12/12/2006 10:29:20 AM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Wow, this *is* old.


83 posted on 12/12/2006 10:30:19 AM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: jude_3
Jesus said: "Do not give what is holy to the unworthy." Jesus said: "Only a good tree can produce good fruit and a bad tree, bad fruit."

Do you have the Chapter and verses for these two statements?

Matthew 7:6 "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."

Matthew 7:18 "A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit."

84 posted on 12/12/2006 10:31:35 AM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Sloth

I don't see a dang thing....

No,
Wait!

Is that Barney on the right?


85 posted on 12/12/2006 10:31:39 AM PST by najida (If it wasn't for fast food, I'd have no food at all.)
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To: najida

Fife, or Dinosaur? Either way, I'm sure it is.


86 posted on 12/12/2006 10:32:51 AM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: ikka
I have often bashed Catholics due to their elevation of Mary.

Just a point of fact from this Catholic, the Catholic Church did not "elevate" Mary, God the Father did. We just honor her as the mother of God.

87 posted on 12/12/2006 10:33:00 AM PST by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: Sloth

Thr Applebee's receipt might indicate its a forgery..Experts?


88 posted on 12/12/2006 10:34:45 AM PST by woofie (This area deemed a failure, Something new and witty will no doubt emerge)
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To: topher

Saint Didacus of Alcalá, more familiar as San Diego, was a lay brother of the Order of Friars Minor who died at Alcalá de Henares, Spain, November 12, 1463.


89 posted on 12/12/2006 10:44:34 AM PST by carolinalivin
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To: RobbyS

Saint Didacus of Alcalá, more familiar as San Diego, was a lay brother of the Order of Friars Minor who died at Alcalá de Henares, Spain, November 12, 1463.


90 posted on 12/12/2006 10:45:58 AM PST by carolinalivin
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To: Dqban22

Saint Didacus of Alcalá, more familiar as San Diego, was a lay brother of the Order of Friars Minor who died at Alcalá de Henares, Spain, November 12, 1463.


91 posted on 12/12/2006 10:46:31 AM PST by carolinalivin
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To: topher
"[How] it is possible to explain this image and its consistency in time without colors, on a fabric that has not been treated?" Tonsmann asked. "[How] is it possible that, despite the fact there is no paint, the colors maintain their luminosity and brilliance?"

It's called a miracle from God. Accept it.

92 posted on 12/12/2006 11:00:18 AM PST by Centurion2000 (If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
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To: Salvation
LifesiteNews.com has an article about Mel Gibson's new film and the new film Guadalupe that is also out at this time.

Tan Books has a book by Francis Johnston. It is the Wonder of Guadalupe.

This book has about some of the scientific research into the images in the eyes that was done (I think) in the 1970's (if not, it was the 1960's).

A good stocking stuffer for that special someone.

I remember in Atlanta a few years ago I gave a woman recovering from cancer a number of Tan Books. She later joined a religious order.

The Indians of Mexico (natives) painted over the miraculous image to make her look more like the natives. So there is paint pigment on the miraculous image.

Cactus cloth has a tough time lasting 500 years. Also, in the 1920's or 1930's, the Freemasons in Mexico tried to blow up the image but failed. In the new Basilica is about a four foot brass cross that was bent in two by the force of the blast. The glass covering the picture was uncracked.

In the 1920's they did not have bulletproof glass - at least for the image...

93 posted on 12/12/2006 7:37:47 PM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: God_isa_Jew

"How many mexicans believe that 'the Virgin of Guadalupe' is/was a demonic manifestation?"

Probably some.
Some also probably believe the moon is made out of green cheese.
People can believe the dumbest things, like those two previous things, for example.

And no, God is not a Jew.
God is God.
Jews are people.


94 posted on 12/12/2006 7:45:47 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva.)
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To: Sloth

Perhaops the images are not as clear as a bell, but the eyeball itself is clear as a bell, and disturbingly realistic too. It looks like a sonograph. This is a tiny image on cactus fiber from the early 1500s.

Very strange.
Very, very strange.


95 posted on 12/12/2006 7:48:30 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva.)
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To: mercy

Play nice, now, amigo.


96 posted on 12/12/2006 8:03:28 PM PST by Ciexyz (I highly recommend "Apocalypto" - raves, raves, raves.)
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To: Salvation

ping for your consideration.


97 posted on 12/12/2006 8:04:43 PM PST by Ciexyz (I highly recommend "Apocalypto" - raves, raves, raves.)
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To: topher

I have seen this picture several times. I don't buy this story. This is more of the mysticism of the Roman church!


98 posted on 12/12/2006 8:07:33 PM PST by Doctor Don
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To: Doctor Don
Believe what you want.

The symbolic nature of the picture was such that it made it possible for different tribes/cultures to communicate just by drawing the picture.

The Indians (natives) of Mexico/Central America/South America that employed human sacrifice were able to see the significance of the image by drawing it in the dirt.

It is a scientific fact that this ended the practice of human sacrifice by these peoples.

For example, there was some sort of ball game in Mexico City at the time of Cortez that the winner got to have his heart taken out of him (while it was still beating) as a sacrifice to the gods.

There have been SCIENTIFIC tests about the image sort of like what was done on the Shroud of Turin.

For example, NASA did some tests on the Shroud of Turin and these tests showed that that the Shroud was created by some sort of unknown energy.

The tests referred to in Francis Johnston's book were done by Kodak. The pupil of the eye basically showed the people standing around Saint Juan Diego when he opened his tilma (which was filled with roses).

Call Kodak Corp as the liars, not the Roman Catholic Church. It is the mysticm of the analysis done by Kodak...

99 posted on 12/12/2006 8:46:43 PM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher
[ Science Stunned by Virgin of Guadalupe´s Eyes ]

(Eddie Murphy laugh)...

100 posted on 12/12/2006 9:00:41 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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