You wrote:Once again you speak from ignorance. Praying for the dead in Purgatory had nothing to do with praying with the "dead" saints in Heaven. Once again you confuse issues.
Dave, you misunterstood Havoc. Sometimes it seems like you "misunderstand" on purpose. You confused his whole post. Pay attention and try to understand.
I assure you it is not purposeful. I am sure that I don't understand a majority of what he says and vice versa. I am also sure that I wouldn't bother to even say anything about his posts if he didn't infuriate me with his lies. And vice versa I'm sure.
I know you don't like to think like me, but try this once. He says that the Catholic Church teaches that Mary must have remained a virgin or it would effect Jesus's Incarnation. This is pure BS, but he argues against the point anyway and throws in a few "doctrine of the devils" and inflammatory rhetoric like that.
when asked to provide support for his claims of what Catholics teach, he ignores me.
Then he says that Purgatory is a "work" of the person in Purgatory. I again ask for proof of what he claims is Catholic teaching, proudly tells you all here that it is Catholic teaching. He refers me to the prior 160-some threads.
I see last night that he found some Catholic teaching on Purgatory. It is all well and good, but NONE of it backs up what he said about us teaching it is a work. NONE of it. Then he tells me how we are all following the devil.
I wonder if Havoc realizes that his "twisting" of Catholic teaching is just as maddening as what he considers our "twisting" of Scripture?
I wouldn't mind if an opponent here disagreed with Catholic teaching. the808bass does it all the time. But he also seems to understand what the teaching is. I would give Havoc a kewpie doll if he could shut off his "doctrine of demons" rhetoric for five minutes and actually give a faithful recounting of what Catholics actually teach about anything.
SD