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To: SoothingDave
No they are not wrong, but rather a participation in Creation. Nevertheless, Mary did not have other children. Mary was a spotless vessel to hold God Incarnate. Havoc would object, but I would not use something which God had touched for an ordinary use.


I sometimes chuckle when you say that Mary was a spotless vessel that carried God Incarnate, and if you had a glass that God had drank out of, would you use it for a common drinking glass? (My analogy)

I think that the case you make why Joseph would never touch Mary sexually again is not even realistic.

Mary nursed Jesus, changed his dirty diapers, and washed his bottom, smacked his butt when he was bad, yelled at him, wiped his dirty face, got mad when he wouldn't eat his food and probably forgot half the time that he was the Son of God.

She probably wondered sometimes if it wasn't all a dream, because he was so typically human, he was just like all other boys his age, and after he was born and they settled into a routine, she didn't sit all day long and say to her self, this is the Savior, this is the Savior, she started leading a normal life as any woman of that time.

She was a Jew, God had said go forth and multiply, she also knew he would soon have his own life, and then what about her and Joseph?

Jesus was around them for 30 years, do you think that she sat and waited for his beckon call every day? Don't you think she had a life?

A kid is a kid, and you can only be fully aware of his calling so many hours a day. Could Jesus have had a normal childhood if his mother hung on him all day long?

I think most catholics forget the human side of life, and she was just as human as you were, I think when he was 12 years old, he told them in more or less words, get a life Mom and Dad, I have my Fathers work to do.

2,082 posted on 10/22/2001 9:22:25 PM PDT by JHavard
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To: JHavard
I sometimes chuckle when you say that Mary was a spotless vessel that carried God Incarnate, and if you had a glass that God had drank out of, would you use it for a common drinking glass? (My analogy)

Bad analogy, if you could find the Holy Grail would you use it for Kool-Aid? It's also not quite what SD meant, a more accurate analogy would be "if you had the Ark would you use it as a box for YOUR stuff?"

Mary nursed Jesus, changed his dirty diapers, and washed his bottom, smacked his butt when he was bad, yelled at him, wiped his dirty face, got mad when he wouldn't eat his food and probably forgot half the time that he was the Son of God.

I don't think He was ever bad, I could be wrong. Perhaps you can give us a Biblical reference?

She probably wondered sometimes if it wasn't all a dream, because he was so typically human, he was just like all other boys his age, and after he was born and they settled into a routine, she didn't sit all day long and say to her self, this is the Savior, this is the Savior, she started leading a normal life as any woman of that time.

She gave birth while she was a virgin. I don't think that is the kinda thing you just chalk up to a dream!

A kid is a kid, and you can only be fully aware of his calling so many hours a day. Could Jesus have had a normal childhood if his mother hung on him all day long?

Do you think Jesus had a normal childhood?

I think most catholics forget the human side of life, and she was just as human as you were, I think when he was 12 years old, he told them in more or less words, get a life Mom and Dad, I have my Fathers work to do.

First, I don't think they minded. Second, I really don't think Jesus would say that to His parents. After all, wouldn't that be braking His own rules?

2,086 posted on 10/22/2001 10:17:53 PM PDT by Pelayo
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