If God could simply nullify Mary's ability to sin, there would be no need for Jesus - ever.
Who said anything about God nullifying Mary's ability to sin? She was born without Original Sin, but that doesn't make sin impossible. Or Adam and Eve never would have sinned. One day I wish you would drop your insufferable attitude and actually listen.
You have no idea what you are saying - do you?! Blasphemy. Pure and simple Blasphemy. God CHOSE Mary because she had kept herself free from sin and lived righteously. God didn't break his own laws and transgress Mary's rights or those of the Devil in order to bring Christ into the world.
First you tell God what He can not do (nullify Mary's ability to sin) then you speak of the "rights" of the Devil. Wrong has no rights.
God prepared Mary for her role, but He did not remove her free will. She had no Original Sin, but she was still free to sin personally. Which she did not. Though I am sure that she had God's help in avoiding sin in her life.
Honestly, man. If we said that Mary avoided sin all on her own, which you seem to be saying, then there would be no need for a Savior and you would rip me for that.
If we say that Mary needed special assistance from God to remain sinless you rip us for saying God violated the devil's "rights" and turned Mary into a slave.
There's no pleasing some people who are already pleased with themselves.
SD
I'm sure the Lord is pleased with ya Hav. Hang in there against these type of attacks.
I sometimes chuckle when you say that Mary was a spotless vessel that carried God Incarnate, and if you had a glass that God had drank out of, would you use it for a common drinking glass? (My analogy)
I think that the case you make why Joseph would never touch Mary sexually again is not even realistic.
Mary nursed Jesus, changed his dirty diapers, and washed his bottom, smacked his butt when he was bad, yelled at him, wiped his dirty face, got mad when he wouldn't eat his food and probably forgot half the time that he was the Son of God.
She probably wondered sometimes if it wasn't all a dream, because he was so typically human, he was just like all other boys his age, and after he was born and they settled into a routine, she didn't sit all day long and say to her self, this is the Savior, this is the Savior, she started leading a normal life as any woman of that time.
She was a Jew, God had said go forth and multiply, she also knew he would soon have his own life, and then what about her and Joseph?
Jesus was around them for 30 years, do you think that she sat and waited for his beckon call every day? Don't you think she had a life?
A kid is a kid, and you can only be fully aware of his calling so many hours a day. Could Jesus have had a normal childhood if his mother hung on him all day long?
I think most catholics forget the human side of life, and she was just as human as you were, I think when he was 12 years old, he told them in more or less words, get a life Mom and Dad, I have my Fathers work to do.
What you all call original sin we call sin nature. And Mary most certainly did have it. Saying she didn't is tampering with God's word. The Sin nature is a result of the seperation of Man from the spiritual by God. Man can no longer see the spiritual and is stuck in the physical or 'natural' now. That is the fallen state. Man sees and operates in the carnal only - unless either God or Satan intervenes. Mary had the same nature as the rest of mankind.
Me: You have no idea what you are saying - do you?! Blasphemy. Pure and simple Blasphemy. God CHOSE Mary because she had kept herself free from sin and lived righteously. God didn't break his own laws and transgress Mary's rights or those of the Devil in order to bring Christ into the world.
You:
First you tell God what He can not do (nullify Mary's ability to sin) then you speak of the "rights" of the Devil. Wrong has no rights.
First of all, God made the rules and he goes by them just as we do. If he didn't - he wouldn't be a just God. Argue with that!
Secondly, The Devil does have rights. He has jurisdiction over anyone that is not one of God's Sheep. God has agreed to do things a certain way in Covenant with man. And all three parties have defined rights in that covenant. God deciding that satan didn't have rights to tempt Mary in any fashion would be a violation of the Covenant - breaking the rules. God doesn't break his rules or his promises - that is something that Man and the Devil do. God is Just.
God prepared Mary for her role, but He did not remove her free will. She had no Original Sin, but she was still free to sin personally. Which she did not. Though I am sure that she had God's help in avoiding sin in her life.
Oh, I see. He protected her from the sin nature by not allowing her to have it. Basically just violated his own rules in order to bring Jesus on the scene within the rules. Uhu. Anymore bright ideas? I know this just glances off of you because you don't understand it; but, God doesn't break his rules so that you can define dogmas that you like.
Honestly, man. If we said that Mary avoided sin all on her own, which you seem to be saying, then there would be no need for a Savior and you would rip me for that.
Mary did avoid sin all on her own, it's called refusing to partake in it and leading a righteous life. And in the event that she did sin, it required following the sacrificial system for purification from her sin. She met those obligations and led a righteous life. That is the only way she could be without sin under the old system. You guys need magic acts and such because she has to be polished once you get her on the pedastal. Once again, in a race to build a more believeable pile of garbage, Catholicism just up and defines doctrine to make it's other doctrines seem right. Polishing lies with Blasphemy may seem right to you, but it enrages me.
If we say that Mary needed special assistance from God to remain sinless you rip us for saying God violated the devil's "rights" and turned Mary into a slave.
Nobody needed special assistance in the old days to live a righteous life - they just needed to obey God. The same is true today, with the caviat now of accepting Christ rather than heeding the old sacrificial system. Ya'll act like there was no such thing as a righteous person before Jesus came along. You can't really be that dumb.
There's no pleasing some people who are already pleased with themselves.
When you're selling spraypainted bricks for Gold, you're right. I'm not going to be pleased with your Bricks. When you blaspheme God in the midst of selling a fraud, don't expect me to be Mr. understanding.