Posted on 10/15/2001 6:54:40 AM PDT by malakhi
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v>These verses were not speaking of keeping a literal feast.
IMR>Why? Christ took the place of a real lamb for a real feast (Passover).
v>Paul would not use leavened or unleavened bread regarding a literal feast knowing that it was part of the law done away in Christ.
IMR>Why? The real feast used unleavened bread.
IMR>Christ's sacrifice was of a piece with the Passover Seder. Why did Christ institute the new covenant within the boundaries of the old (the passover supper, that is)?
IMR>You are correct that Easter (and to a similar extent Christmas) have become flooded (and in some cases buried) with pagan ritual signs. But that does not change the real celebration of His death burial and resurrection. Christmas is harder since it does not even correspond to the actual birth day of Christ, but Easter is forever tied to the Passover.
37524 posted on 3/29/02 1:52 PM Mountain by IMRight
The L-rd's Supper is a pesach seder up through but not including the last "cup of the vine" (Matthew 26)
The last cup is drunk at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb in Revelation 19
chuck <truth@Y'shuaHaMashiach>
The L-rd's Supper is a pesach seder up through but not including the last "cup of the vine" (Matthew 26)
Are you refering to the lupper room? Or the "Lord's supper" we have today (in whatever form). If the first, I agree completely. I'm not sure of the context if the second.
The last cup is drunk at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb in Revelation 19
I had always assumed that the fourth cup was drunk at the cross - "Therefore when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, "It is finished!" And He bowed His head and gave up His spirit."
Maybe "it is finished" refers to the seder?
You may as well.
Becky
Mark 14:25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.
Acts 10:41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
1 Corinthians 15: 55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
Is it your thought that Jesus was not celebrating a Passover Seder?
Certainly not in the traditional manner as he was the passover lamb itself and very soon would fulfill this part of the law, being sacrificed once. Nowhere is it taught Christians should observe any of the laws of the Jews and Paul warned if you do, Christ will profit you nothing.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
Pssst. Vmatt. Paul said
"Hebrews 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is;
Nowhere is it taught you should stay out of fellowship.
The feast of Our Lord's Resurrection is only called "Easter" in English speaking countries. In countries where romance languages are spoken, and in Greece, the name is derived from the Hebrew name for Passover with consonants psch. In modern Hebrew, the vowels given make it Pesach. In Greek the Feast of the Resurrection is called Pascha. (Note the vowels in modern Hebrew were added by (sadly) anti-Christian rabbis in the middle ages, so what vowels ancient Hebrew used is not immediately clear.)
St. Constantine called the feast Pascha. In English the feast became known as Easter because it always fell in the month of Oestre, an Anglo-Saxon month name derived from a pagan goddess's name.
To object to it on that basis, however, is a bit like objecting to Maundy Thursday because Thursday is named for the Norse god Thor, or to the Fourth of July because July is named for Julius Ceasar (who, after all is a pagan god, having been voted divine honors by the Roman Senate).
BigMack
BigMack
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