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The Neverending Story (The New Christian Chronicles)
Southern Baptists ending talks with Catholic Church ^ | 3/24/01 | AP

Posted on 10/15/2001 6:54:40 AM PDT by malakhi

The Neverending Story
An ongoing debate on Scripture, Tradition, History and Interpretation.


Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams


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KEYWORDS: christianlist; michaeldobbs
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To: Woodkirk; the808bass
GO RAMS --

Hey, I'm really starting to like this guy, intelligence with common sense. :-)

23,621 posted on 02/03/2002 1:33:46 PM PST by Iowegian
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To: american colleen
Thanks! "Why Do Catholics Do That?" is one of the few RC books that I've read and one of my main non-Orthodox sources for understanding modern RC thought. Fr. RJ Neuhaus and First Things is another.

Yes, I'm off in a few minutes to watch the Super Bowl. I'm sure you ladies will hold down the fort! Go Patriots!!

23,622 posted on 02/03/2002 1:35:39 PM PST by Wordsmith
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To: Wordsmith;ALL
You might be off for a few minutes. I'm gone for the night. Goodnight all.
23,623 posted on 02/03/2002 1:40:00 PM PST by OLD REGGIE
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To: OLD REGGIE;Havoc;PaynoAttentionManBehindCurtain;SoothingDave;Invincibly Ignorant;angelo
OR Since you've been sick I'll not jump down your throat for taking my remark out of context

Well. I think I just got diagnosed with a permanent condition. You may have to lay off for quite awhile. :)

Seriously. I've been pretty out of it all weekend (so my first wife says I'm "not allowed to play" with you guys).

Havoc - I'm afraid I have to ask for an extension on our pending debate. Feel free to post one "can't take the heat big guy? Huh? huh? huh?" and I promise not to bite back.

ALL - I finally found an old bit I had on tape that I thought was funny. It's from a speech Gene Roddenberry (of Star Trek fame) gave a long time ago about network reactions to what he thought were good story ideas.

It's quite funny. But the sad part about it is how much TV has changed since then. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to comment on what changes the networks would make to "The Script" today.

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Body 'The record company said: why don't you write a typical memo? An honest one of the kind you'd actually get back from the Network when they censor your show. I've done that, and in order to show you how they censor, pretend with me that we have submitted a script to them, based on a classic. In fact, let's choose the best-selling book of all time. Here is exactly the kind of memo we'd get back.

"Gentlemen: reference your script, 'the bible', we are concerned with the story's preoccupation with violence, sex, nudity, and other television code violations. We're particularly concerned with your story's protagonist, 'God', who seems to be completely unmotivated and rather bloodthirsty. Also this principle character as presently written, seems to has highly prejudice in the favor of a single tribe. We remind you that the television code requires equal treatment of blacks, Asians, ........, American Indians and other minority groups.

We are equally concerned with the characterization of the principle characters' son, who is portrayed in wildly inflammatory, revolutionary conduct, which appears to ridicule wealth, banking and loan advertisers, and the American way of life. His attitudes must be clearly labeled to impressionable young television viewers as reprehensible.

Specifically:

1) please delete references to God making woman out of Adam's rib. This network is an equal opportunities employer with commitments to female equality.

2) opening sequences are too suggestive. Delete language and 'both were naked', their subsequent apron of figs leaves will not be a suitable garment in the case of the female,

3) also the tempting of the female by the serpent seems to have sexual connotations. Recommend serpent be substituted with frog or badger.

4) caution in excessive violence throughout, particularly in the case of God drowning over 99% of mankind.

5) also we must question the story logic of having an all-knowing, all-powerful central character who creates faulty humans and then blames them for his own mistakes. In order to make this character more sympathetic, please delete his exhibitions of wrath, and also any indications of a personality insecurity, such as his constant demands for praise.

6) suns and daughters of Noah can not be shown and described as repopulating earth, as television code forbids incestual relationships. Recommend a fleet of arcs, or perhaps strong swimmers from other families can be saved.

7) delete continual references to virgins. Such description of the character Mary is acceptable as a story point, but only if it is clearly indicated that her relationship with main character is totally platonic. Otherwise a marriage ceremony must be indicated.

8) specifics in the portrayal of their son: he cannot be shown practicing medicine without a license. Delete his biased political views, such as 'peace at all costs', his mocking of established courts and judicial systems, and his ridicule and of abnormal attitudes towards capitalism, profit and the laying up of treasures. All of this is further aggravated by your description of the character. Must he be shown as bearded and barefoot?

In summary, a rather extensive rewrite seems indicated. It is suggested that the writers be constantly guided by the question: is this suitable for family-hour viewing.'


23,624 posted on 02/03/2002 2:40:03 PM PST by IMRight
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To: the808bass
Rams 34 Patsies 12

PATRIOTS 20 RAMS 17

Sorry, I'm estatic

23,625 posted on 02/03/2002 6:18:19 PM PST by pegleg
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To: Woodkirk
to what does "808bass" refer?

A drum machine (the TR-808) which was popularized in the early to mid 80s with the advent of hip-hop music. When you hear the big "booooom" from a car stereo, that is rooted in said drum machine.

23,626 posted on 02/03/2002 6:44:42 PM PST by the808bass
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To: american colleen
but is a Zen (!) saying

Well, gee. I got all concerned about Artemis and you quelled all such worries with a Zen quote. What an irony. :)

23,627 posted on 02/03/2002 6:46:25 PM PST by the808bass
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To: OLD REGGIE
Congratulations Patriot fans. Your team played great in a great game. (The Super Bowl is always a great game when the Rams are in it, you can look it up). Now don't forget to be gracious winners. Is it me or did it seem like that last 1 minute and 30 seconds of the game was in slow motion?
23,628 posted on 02/03/2002 6:46:31 PM PST by Iowegian
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To: pegleg
Sorry, I'm estatic

No need to apologize. That's why they play the game. Rams were outplayed, outhearted and, most especially, outcoached. To the victor goes the spoils and this include good-spirited taunting. Kudos to the better team on this night.

23,629 posted on 02/03/2002 6:49:09 PM PST by the808bass
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To: Iowegian
Thanks for the link, Io! I'll add it to the list of those that have so helpfully been supplied for me. ;o)
23,630 posted on 02/03/2002 6:50:54 PM PST by malakhi
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To: Iowegian
It was in slow motion. I was praying for an intentional grounding call. I was interceding for keeping the clock running. No avail. Great game (at least the end). I'm not sure Martz had a coherent game plan ready for the D of New England. Nor do I like the prevent defense of the final 1:30. Prevent defenses only prevent you from winning.
23,631 posted on 02/03/2002 6:51:38 PM PST by the808bass
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To: angelo
Yeah whatever, I've got a bad case of the post Super Bowl blues. I wonder why? But seriously, thanks for your contribution to our little debate.
23,632 posted on 02/03/2002 6:54:59 PM PST by Iowegian
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To: the808bass
Prevent defenses only prevent you from winning.

Yep, that's for sure. I know this is going to sound like sour grapes, but I don't think the better team won, but the better coach sure did. But the Pats had the fire in their bellies and played like a team and that's what won it for them (along with a better game plan).

23,633 posted on 02/03/2002 6:59:10 PM PST by Iowegian
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To: Havoc; RobbyS
I have a question--which epistle of Paul is believed to be the earliest written?
23,634 posted on 02/03/2002 7:00:26 PM PST by malakhi
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To: Lazarus Long
Welcome to The Neverending Story, Lazarus Long!
23,635 posted on 02/03/2002 7:05:26 PM PST by malakhi
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To: the808bass
Because it is associated with her virginity / fecundity and her unique--not merely gifted son. See. you all in a week!
23,637 posted on 02/03/2002 7:10:14 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: angelo
Welcome to The Neverending Story, Lazarus Long!

I show the letter to the Galatians in 49AD JH

23,638 posted on 02/03/2002 7:15:41 PM PST by JHavard
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To: angelo
Welcome to The Neverending Story, Lazarus Long!

I show the letter to the Galatians in 49AD JH

duh

(^g^) JH
23,639 posted on 02/03/2002 7:19:38 PM PST by JHavard
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To: angelo
I thought this was amusing. Over on the Super Bowl thread, when it went over 1000 replies someone asked if it was the longest thread ever on FR, then another replied: not even close _______ thread went over 1500 replies. I guess they haven't been paying very close attention.
23,640 posted on 02/03/2002 7:26:07 PM PST by Iowegian
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