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US puts squeeze on Israel
Guardian Unlimited ^ | 10/12/01 | Ewen MacAskill and Suzanne Goldenberg

Posted on 10/11/2001 7:08:53 PM PDT by gohabsgo

The US is to make a determined effort to force Israel to enter into peace negotiations with the Palestinians, fearing that the west is in danger of losing the propaganda war with Osama bin Laden.

In an attempt to address one of the main Muslim grievances, President, George Bush will use all the financial and political muscle at his disposal to push the Israelis and Palestinians to the negotiating table.

Mr Bush, whose patience with the Israeli prime minister, Ariel Sharon, has finally snapped, is drawing up a detailed plan to be published in the next few weeks in the hope of finally resolving 53 years of conflict.

But Mr Sharon, whose camp has been unnerved by the development, will not be moved easily, and the scene is set for a gigantic battle of wills. Tony Blair, who returned to London last night from a two-day visit to the United Arab Emirates, Oman and Egypt, highlighted a gnawing anxiety in the US and Britain.

Only five days after the bombing of Afghanistan began, Mr Blair made the extraordinary admission that the west was in danger of losing the propaganda war in Muslim states. He said: "One thing becoming increasingly clear to me is the need to upgrade our media and public opinion operations in the Arab and Muslim world. There is a need for us to communicate effectively."

Bin Laden electrified parts of the Muslim world within hours of the first bombs landing on Afghanistan by releasing a video in which he tried to polarise the conflict between the west and Islam, focusing especially on the Israeli-Palestinian crisis. A senior aide to Mr Blair conceded that the broadcast had found a receptive audience in the Middle East.

The west's biggest worry is the dangerous schism between Arab leaders, who basically support the west and are appalled by Bin Laden, and sections of their people to whom he has become a potent symbol of defiance.

Acknowledging this, Mr Blair said: "All moderate, sensible parts of Arab opinion know that it is right that we are acting in Afghanistan and support that. But they do point out to us that they have a general problem with their own people, that we have lost interest in the peace process. It is a perception we need to counter."

In a series of interviews in the region and a signed article offered to Arab newspapers - all part of Downing Street's new battle for public opinion - Mr Blair stressed the urgent need to "convince people that we are sincere in our desire" to get the Middle East peace process back on track. Central to that is the new US thinking, which Saudi Arabia and Egypt are enthusiastically backing. It is based on proposals on the table when the Israelis and Palestinians met in January at Taba in Egypt, the closest they have ever come to agreement. It envisages Jerusalem as the shared capital of Jewish and Palestinian states.

The ideas, which were to be announced in a speech by the US secretary of state, Colin Powell, that was postponed because of the September 11 attack, are expected be revealed formally later this month.

Leaks in the American and Israeli press are causing tremors of nervousness around Mr Sharon, even though US diplomats say the proposals could change before they are publicly aired. "This government is not going to divide Jerusalem. Period," Mr Sharon's spokesman Raanan Gissin said. "Jerusalem will remain the capital of the Jewish people."

Mr Sharon will visit Washington next month to press his case, Israel Radio reported yesterday. He is known to be angry that Mr Powell consulted Saudi Arabia and Egypt but not Israel when he drafted his speech.

Palestinian officials lauded the idea of a "viable homeland" - seen as an improvement on Mr Bush's call for a Palestinian state.

Revealing the nervousness of Arab governments, it emerged yesterday that a tentative plan to include Saudi Arabia on Mr Blair's Middle East itinerary was scrapped at the last minute.

The Saudi government is fearful of Islamic fundamentalist opinion in the kingdom. The London paper Asharq al-Awsat quoted "informed sources" in London as saying the kingdom told Mr Blair that it could not receive him because the leadership was sensitive about its role and position in the Islamic world.

Downing Street played it down, insisting that the visit was not logistically possible.


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I do hope and pray that Israel will finally realize that billions in US support and the enormous sacrifice the US military are about to make, make it incumbent on them to compromise.
1 posted on 10/11/2001 7:08:53 PM PDT by gohabsgo
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To: gohabsgo
How is it that you compromise with someone who only wants your total destruction?

By committing partial suicide?

2 posted on 10/11/2001 7:15:06 PM PDT by liberalism=failure
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To: gohabsgo
Oh thank gosh for the clarity of the Guardian.

The State of Israel has a Motto. Never Again. Learn it and understand that Israeli's will go Nuclear literally rather than have another holocaust.

The march to the chambers last time, never again.

BTW, can you tell me why an egyptian is in charge of the PLO.

3 posted on 10/11/2001 7:18:28 PM PDT by dts32041
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To: gohabsgo
This is Bush's biggest mistake. If this story is not a bunch of propaganda, then it will be the downfall of America. God will not stand for it and the Israelis are God's people.

“I will bless those who bless you and I will curse those who curse you.” Genesis 12:3

4 posted on 10/11/2001 7:18:32 PM PDT by truthandlife
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To: Jeremiah Jr; 2sheep; jonatron; Lent
Mr Bush, whose patience with the Israeli prime minister, Ariel Sharon, has finally snapped, is drawing up a detailed plan to be published in the next few weeks in the hope of finally resolving 53 years of conflict.

Probably more like an abomination of desolation.

5 posted on 10/11/2001 7:18:46 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: DittoJed2
FYI. I know you have been praying for a while but I believe President Bush is in dire need of prayer right now. (If this story is true) If he makes this mistake by forcing Israel to the negotiating table I can tell that it won't be long for America to cease to exist.
6 posted on 10/11/2001 7:22:25 PM PDT by truthandlife
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To: liberalism=failure
If the USA turns its back on Israel it is doomed. I know President Bush reads his Bible and knows what God says about his chosen people and about what happens to nations who bless Israel.... and what happens to those who curse Israel.
7 posted on 10/11/2001 7:22:25 PM PDT by marbren
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To: gohabsgo; monkeyshine
It is based on proposals on the table when the Israelis and Palestinians met in January at Taba in Egypt, the closest they have ever come to agreement. It envisages Jerusalem as the shared capital of Jewish and Palestinian states.

One has to wonder why Arafat would accept now what he rejected earlier, assuming the January proposal did propose a joint city, and Barak accepted it? Did he Monkeyshine?. I believe the offer prior to January put the Arab part of Jerusalem in the proposed Palestinian state, but I could be wrong.

9 posted on 10/11/2001 7:24:10 PM PDT by Torie
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To: truthandlife
This is Bush's biggest mistake.

Well, now! I suppose one must accept progress where ever one finds it. I am encouraged at least that you did not call Bush/Powell anti-Semitic. . . .

The Mitchell Process will go foreward.

10 posted on 10/11/2001 7:27:20 PM PDT by Phil V.
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To: gohabsgo
Mr Bush, whose patience with the Israeli prime minister, Ariel Sharon, has finally snapped, is drawing up a detailed plan to be published in the next few weeks in the hope of finally resolving 53 years of conflict.

He stated in his speech tonight that he would like to see a Palestinian State. But ONLY if that State would recognize AND respect the State of Isreal. As this will never happen I don't see how this article is much more than propaganda. Arafat had his chance...several times, in fact. They don't want a State only, they want Isreal to disappear.

11 posted on 10/11/2001 7:27:25 PM PDT by SusanUSA
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To: truthandlife
Israelis are God's people.

OK, let God take care of them then. It's time to tell Israel and the Palestinians to come to terms or we (and our money) are out of there.

12 posted on 10/11/2001 7:27:58 PM PDT by Seti 1
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To: truthandlife
The Bible tells us that the whole world will turn on Israel during the end times. Satan wants to destroy Israel to show that God does not keep his promises....Hey Satan! GOD KEEPS HIS PROMISES!!!
13 posted on 10/11/2001 7:28:56 PM PDT by marbren
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To: gohabsgo
"All moderate, sensible parts of Arab opinion know that it is right that we are acting in Afghanistan and support that

That constituting approximately 0.0000002% of the total population. Sadly, both of them are in the final stages of senile dementia!

14 posted on 10/11/2001 7:29:43 PM PDT by neutrino
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To: truthandlife
We are all God's children.But those who accepts the Lord Jesus as the Son of God are the apple of God the Father's eye! We can only come into the Father,if we accept Jesus as Lord and Savior.When the Jewish people do that,then they will be saved and we know then that we are in the last times.
15 posted on 10/11/2001 7:31:30 PM PDT by Lady In Blue
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To: gohabsgo
Bush is real friend of Israel. According to the BIBLE if you Bless Israel, you will be Blessed, You curse Israel you will be cursed. If you sing " GOD Bless America" and you don't Bless Israel, GOD will not bless you, according to the Christian BIBLE and guess what, President Bush knows that too. He has read the BIBLE all the way through twice and he believes it too!
16 posted on 10/11/2001 7:33:12 PM PDT by factmart
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To: gohabsgo
Mr Bush, whose patience with the Israeli prime minister, Ariel Sharon, has finally snapped...

Bollocks. It doesn't pass the sniff test.

I could believe President Bush is disappointed with Sharon's 'don't repeat 1938' speech, but snapped? Nope.

17 posted on 10/11/2001 7:33:24 PM PDT by Petronski
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To: gohabsgo; Veronica
The ideas, which were to be announced in a speech by the US secretary of state, Colin Powell, that was postponed because of the September 11 attack, are expected be revealed formally later this month....

Mr Sharon will visit Washington next month to press his case, Israel Radio reported yesterday. He is known to be angry that Mr Powell consulted Saudi Arabia and Egypt but not Israel when he drafted his speech.

19 posted on 10/11/2001 7:35:43 PM PDT by Seti 1
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
Every individual in the world is saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. What happens to a nation depends on how that nation deals with Israel. The gift of salvation is free to everyone. Don't mix a nations life with an individuals life.
20 posted on 10/11/2001 7:37:43 PM PDT by marbren
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