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Poitns about David Schippers and Terrorism
Alberta's Child (Vanity) | 10/10/01 | self

Posted on 10/10/2001 6:15:46 PM PDT by Alberta's Child

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To: katze
You don't get to go on the popular TV programs if you don't tow the offical line on certain subjects. Think of all these people who show up regularly on all of the talk shows. Did you ever hear one of them question the official story of Vincent Foster's death? If they did, there would go all that TV exposure and money.
41 posted on 10/10/2001 7:48:27 PM PDT by Aurelius
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To: It'salmosttolate
DS knows what evidence on Clinton is locked in the Ford Building. The very evidence that made Tim Russert throw up.

I'm with AmericainCanada on this one. What in the world is this about. Is there a thread here on FR about this?

42 posted on 10/10/2001 7:48:42 PM PDT by dubyagee
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To: Peach
I thought they did.
43 posted on 10/10/2001 7:49:42 PM PDT by carenot
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To: Peach; Alberta's Child
I believe that time will tell if Schippers is phoney or not.  If he is he should take a real beating for this.  No not figuratively.  These comments are serious and affect a lot of people who's relatives or friends were involved.  I would not disagree with the idea that Schippers provide certain details that can back up his claims.  But I do have a problem with him providing names if he is seriously worried about their safety.

Where possible he should name names and provide intricate details.  The lady with the binder seems a good place to start.  I'd sure like to get a load of what she's actually got.

Sorry we couldn't agree on this one right now, but who knows, we may come together on it later on.

Thanks for the comments.  I wish you well.

44 posted on 10/10/2001 7:52:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Alberta's Child
If I could speak to Schippers now and ask him one question, it would be this: "Be honest, Mr. Schippers -- You didn't learn anything about Bill Clinton in 1998 that you didn't already know, did you?"

Well, I, for one, can tell you that I learn something new practically everyday about the Clintons that I didn't know in 1998 and beyond. Believe me, I have had 20 plus years of dealing with them and it just never ends. So don't be too swift to start making up your mind on that reason alone.

45 posted on 10/10/2001 8:02:04 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Well, I, for one, can tell you that I learn something new practically everyday about the Clintons that I didn't know in 1998 and beyond. Believe me, I have had 20 plus years of dealing with them and it just never ends.

But that's not the real issue here -- the question is, what have you learned about them since 1998 that has changed your mind about whether or not you would vote for him again?

So don't be too swift to start making up your mind on that reason alone.

That would be a valid point, except that I have not made up my mind for one reason or another. I am simply providing reasons for my suspicions about him, based not on one reason or another, but on a combination of several reasons.

The questions nobody has answered is: "Where were all these experts and sources of inside information on September 10th?"

46 posted on 10/10/2001 8:10:31 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: proud American in Canada
THE PREDATOR OF THE UNITED STATES
Is The President A Psychopath?

By Edward Zehr

The question is being asked by many thoughtful people: "Is this guy sick, or what?" The secrets contained in those documents provided by the independent counsel that were so persuasive to wavering members of the House who viewed them at the Ford Building before voting to impeach President Clinton are leaking out. They paint a picture of a president with severe psychological problems. What was in those documents that left congressmen "horrified", according to Rep. Chris Shays, and "nauseated", in the words of Rep. Mike Castle? (Shays was able to keep his "horror" sufficiently under control to vote against impeachment and subsequently introduce a constitutional amendment that would allow the president a third term). NBC presstitute Tim Russert reportedly let it be known that watching the full five hours of the uncut Juanita Broaddrick interview had made him "physically ill," though obviously not so ill that he thought to mention it on his talking head "news" show the following Sunday. (It's only about sex, you know). What is it about President Clinton's "private" behavior that has such an emetic effect upon pols and press alike?

*snip*

Published in the Mar. 1, 1999 issue of The Washington Weekly Copyright 1999 The Washington Weekly (http://www.federal.com)
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47 posted on 10/10/2001 8:16:17 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: dubyagee
see my post #47. FReegards. ;-)
48 posted on 10/10/2001 8:18:38 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: an amused spectator
Thanks. That's very enlightening. Disgusting but enlightening. Thank God for Bush!
49 posted on 10/10/2001 8:21:12 PM PDT by dubyagee
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To: DoughtyOne
Where are the Schippers threads?

I read an interview and would like to find it again. Anyone have a link?

22cal

50 posted on 10/11/2001 4:57:31 AM PDT by 22cal
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To: 22cal
Shippers
52 posted on 10/11/2001 9:18:25 AM PDT by Aurelius
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To: Alberta's Child
Hmmm....Schippers may in the future write a book, and SELL the book. Therefore all the information know by Schippers is suspect.

I would like to introduce you to a concept called capitalism.

Please, read up on it.

In a capitalist system, goods and services are bought and sold in a free market, and the producers are compensated according to demand for their output. Of course the producers take the risk that there will be sufficient demand such that their expenditures are recovered and that profit will be generated. Generally, the quality of the output is directly proportional to the output.

I hope this helps.

53 posted on 10/11/2001 9:26:37 AM PDT by Triple
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To: Triple
In a capitalist system, goods and services are bought and sold in a free market, and the producers are compensated according to demand for their output. Of course the producers take the risk that there will be sufficient demand such that their expenditures are recovered and that profit will be generated. Generally, the quality of the output is directly proportional to the output.

One thing you forgot to mention is that in a capitalist system, a producer who markets an item under false pretenses is guilty of fraud, though admittedly this does not seem to apply to the publishing industry these days. My original post is not an attack on David Schippers for writing a book, but a series of points about the veracity of his claims. While there is nothing wrong with writing a book for the purpose of generating a profit, you might want to ask yourself why someone who allegedly has all this inside information about terrorism hasn't come forward with it before now, when doing so may have saved many lives.

See post #22 in this thread for some clarification. I hope this helps.

54 posted on 10/11/2001 9:42:35 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: 22cal
Sorry, didn't see your request until now.
55 posted on 10/11/2001 9:48:06 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Alberta's Child
Instead of monitoring the people on main st., we should have a camera on all fedgov officials and employees, GS15 and above, 24/7.
56 posted on 10/11/2001 9:55:30 AM PDT by telos
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To: Alberta's Child
"a producer who markets an item under false pretenses is guilty of fraud"

I agree. You make my point. I am sure Schippers, being a former prosecutor, knows the law as well, and would not violate it. He has a ton to lose.

57 posted on 10/11/2001 10:27:57 AM PDT by Triple
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To: Alberta's Child
BTW - if the potential book deal was NOT your 'primary concern,' you shouldn't have made it the first of your four points.
58 posted on 10/11/2001 10:31:58 AM PDT by Triple
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To: Triple
Schippers has absolutely nothing to lose, since his career as a prosecutor is long over. He may know the law regarding consumer fraud, but he also knows how easy it is to hide behind the veil of "protection" for his so-called sources. Suing for civil damages in the publishing or entertainment industry is extremely difficult. Filing criminal charges for fraud is damned near impossible.

There was a case on Long Island, New York several decades ago in which a family that purchased a house filed a civil suit against a publisher or movie producer. They claimed that the book or movie rendered their home worthless because nobody would go near it (now that I think about it, it may have been the house that was the basis of "The Amityville Horror"). The plaintiff lose the suit because the defense was able to show that at no point in the book or movie did they ever say that the story was true. With that kind of burden of proof, you simply can't win a lawsuit (nobody, even those who make documentaries that are inherently "true," make an explicit claim that the book or movie is true).

In the publishing industry, the only real legal threat involves a libel lawsuit. Watch Schippers very carefully, and see if he makes any specific allegations involving actual names of real people. If he doesn't do so, then you know he is covering his @ss against such a suit.

BTW, I only posted the book item as point #1 because it specifically dealt with the "evidence" that had prompted all those Schippers threads yesterday.

59 posted on 10/11/2001 10:49:20 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
"BTW, I only posted the book item as point #1 because it specifically dealt with the "evidence" that had prompted all those Schippers threads yesterday."

So, it was your primary concern, because it dealt with "evidence".

Wait, which is it? hmmm

Oh I see, it is point one due to "evidence," but not a primary concern, because the assertion is empty because that is how a capitalist society works. Further it is point #1 because our jucicial system is unfair.

Thanks, clear as mud.

60 posted on 10/11/2001 12:12:58 PM PDT by Triple
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