A RESPONSE from Old Testament Scriptures to Bin Laden et al's rants and the violence of the Koran

Old Testament prophetic Scriptures re above regions ^ | thousands of years ago and 10 Oct 2001 | Scripture with comments by Quix

[Quix]

I would be very interested in knowing IF there are any nominal Christians or fair-minded non-Christians who have read the above Scriptures AND who

A) had some sort of emotional, spiritual, intellectual light go on as they did--something that strongly said there WAS a fit that they hadn't noticed or known of before.

And/or

B) Had a marked intellectual asent, understanding that such seem to apply more than they might have thought beforehand.

[fourdeuce82d]

No.

[anniegetyourgun]

The scriptures simply remind me again that it's all about Israel - then, now, and in the time to come. After all, her people were "blessed to be a blessing." I only wish they acknowledged that blessing.....

[Quix]

They WILL.

I just pray and hope a minimum of the TUITION will be paid in blood. . . . the prognosis is not overly hopeful at this point.

[Walkin Man]

Ge:12:1: Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

Ge:12:2: And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:

Ge:12:3: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

How about these verses? The Lord lays it out, plain and simple. If a person or country blesses the Jews, God will bless them. If a man or a country curses the Jews then the curse of God, the Ancient of Days is upon them. Do the muslim countries ever cease from cursing the Jews and Israel? The curse of God Almighty is upon them all and one day they will all be destroyed because of their hatred of the Jews, IMHO.

[Faithfull]

I found your article very interesting. While I have become a firm believer in the past fifteen years. I am being asked many questions by nominal or non- believers, especially now. It is difficult for those that have not tried to learn about the Bible, scriptures or God to understand. Scripture goes way over their heads and they tend to cling to their false beliefs because it is simply easier. Like anything else in life, knowledge and being informed- in order to make any decision is work. Many aren't willing to give the time or energy to find out truth....look for some negative comments and let God sort them out. Blessings to you.

[notfondajane]

I have prayed much on this general subject lately. I am begining to think the OT has little relevance to the current situation. God wants to save not destroy islam.

The hardline islamic states are preventing their people from hearing the Gospel. Jesus said the gospel must be preached to all the world. It is arguable the islamic world is the last unpreached area of the world. What is going on may, somehow, result in enough political change that the Gospel is allowed.

The OT prophecies will be fulfilled, but I don't think until all the lost have had an opportunity to hear His Word.

BTW, thanks for the post!

[ppaul]

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[Rodm]

How about:

Psalms 27:1 <> The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

Nor Terrorist

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

[boycott]

#5 is worth reading again. Agreed.

[Quix]

Quite so.

Strongly agree.

Thanks for the comment and verses.

[Quix]

I know what you mean.

It seems that Father has hidden things from those who might have a casual, surface or mercenary approach to issues of truth and righteousness.

Those willing to dig the truth out seem to have a greater and more loyal appreciation for it.

[Quix]

Thanks for your comment.

I don't think anyone I know has the timing or even the sequence of God's plan for the end times all figured out. I don't believe it is HIS time for it to be that known. And I don't know if it will ever be obviously known by those not sensitive to His voice, covered in His Blood.

I guess my feeling is that He is against Islam if only because it's another gospel--not the Good News of Jesus The Christ. But He is NOT against people who believe in Islam. . . per se. . . at least not the nonviolent sincere believer who doesn't know any better. His Compassions are beyond our comprehension for all made in His image.

But our era will also discover some limits of His patience.

Appreciated your comment.

[Quix]

THANKS.

That was not a site I was familiar with.

Blessings,

[Quix]

For sure.

An interesting feeling on observing the towers falling in real time--I happened to be watching CNN while working on school work at my computer. . .

That flavor of Peace that passes all understanding began to descend on me. . . and maybe a bit of a relief, paradoxically . . . I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE that when the enemy comes in like a flood, God raises up a standard against him.

So I began to rejoice at a deeper and a more overt level at God's coming forth more obviously in our era as a result of the enemy's moves.

[Psycho_Bunny]

I don't know that I'd quote the Old Testament in an attempt to rebute the "violence of the Koran".

The Old Testament isn't so pretty itself.

People in glass houses...

[Florida native]

It is true that Jesus will not return until every last ear has heard the Good News. However, there is coming a time that there will be those who will not hear and will be blinded from the truth. That being said, I think that Sept. 11 has ushered in the last Great Revival for the world, and time is of the essence. We as Christians must do all we can to fulfill the Great Commission, NOW.

Plus, these hardline Islamic gov'ts might think they are keeping the Gospel from their people, but with all the multitude of ways we can get in there to tell, I think it is possible that most have heard about Jesus by now. You can get this info via cellphone, and you have to admit cellphones are literally everywhere. And most assuredly they heard Billy Graham say it one more time on Sept. 14 via worldwide broadcast. Sure some of those people don't have TV's, but so many do. Word of mouth broadcast, even when denouncing the Gospel unknowlingly spreads the Good News even farther. That's the beauty of it.Also, many of us spread the Gospel with our actions, as well as our words.

And yes, the OT is as revelevant today as it was when it all happened. Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah were all talking about events that would come to pass in the near future (closer to their time), and they prophecied about events way off in the future; possibly in our time.

[Woodkirk]

Do you see Ezekiel 38 and 39 fulfillment on the near horizon?

[Quix]

I think I understand your perspective and have a sizeable appreciation for it.

A number of verses in the OT are quite disturbing to a peace loving character who hates to harm furry critters even for needed food.

But there is a majesty and an authority that commands some kind of respect and awe. AND it is MUCH CLOSER to the midset, the idiom, the gestalt, the perspectives of the Middle Eastern cultures--even of most Asian oriental cultures than the NT.

And, I don't really think Almighty God needs apology. He IS what He IS. Thankfully, MERCY triumphs over judgment.

But He is not the Almighty Woosse.

He IS ALMIGHTY GOD! And there are/can be some very stark implications of that. Even Christ says those who won't fall on Him and be broken--as in of broken and contrite, humble heart--will be CRUSHED under Him.

These are realities that cultures closer to the nitty gritties of life seem to understand and accept much more clearly and readily than our own.

Comparatively, we seem to live in a kind of denial, cotton-candy lala land. . . . of denial and unreality.

I don't think there is a pat answer to the problem you articulate. I think we have to be led of His Spirit and trust that He will work things out individually for all who seek to know Him in spirit and truth.

HE declares that those who seek Him SHALL find Him.

Appreciated your comment.

[Quix]

I'll tell you this--I SURE PERK UP AND PAY CLOSER ATTENTION WHENEVER I hear of Russia doing anything having any implications at all on the Middle East and particularly on Israel.

I don't know the timing or even the sequencing. I don't know for certain even when Ezek 38 & 39 will occur vis a vis when the 3rd Temple will be rebuilt.

But the time is certainly NOT getting further away!!!

My current convictions (which tend to be vulnerable to additional prayerful pondering as well as other inputs) seem to be of the ilk that such fulfillment could sure happen within some months to a few years.

But I just want to stay repented up, prayed up and sensitive to The Voice of my Lord. . . . and to make hay while the SON shines.