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SoothingDave and JHavard have agreed on something substantive. I think we can close up shop here.

Yeah sure. Agreement can be nice. Soon I'll mess it up by asking JHavard if he thinks Jesus is God or not. I already know your answer and it is also unequivocable. ;-)

SD

Yeah sure. Agreement can be nice. Soon I'll mess it up by asking JHavard if he thinks Jesus is God or not. I already know your answer and it is also unequivocable. ;-)

Rather than chance seeing the threads close down, I'll bite. I have no firm conviction on this subject other then it seems that Christ had to be completely human, and have the same trials and temptations as we do, and if he had some advantage that we don't have, Satan could throw that up as an unfair advantage.

Remember what he told God concerning Job?

Job 1:9 Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.

Remember, this God that Satan was talking to in Job is the same God that Satan had to deal with after the resurrection.

Mt 4:6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

I believe that Satan knew that Jesus was the Son of God, and now he knew that he was more then just a good Jew, but he also knew that he was now in a totally human state.

Mt 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

This was the same Spirit that we are given, except Christ used it to the max, and it serves as an example of our potential, except I believe Jesus had a very real sense of his mission, where we tend to loose site of ours.

When God determined that to save mankind he would have to literally become one of us, he knew that Satan would say, "sure you can overcome temptation if you have an unfair advantage, but take away your full God ship and be as them, and we'll see how good you do in the same circumstances.

He did, and he beat Satan using his own rule book, and this is what I like to think of as my Savior, a God who won the game using the same tools he gave me to use, no more, no less.

I have presumed that Christians believe that Jesus was God. In light of some of the answers you've gotten to this question, I guess I'll have to revisit my thinking on this subject.

Again, nobody asked me (sniff sniff), but I believe Jesus was, is, and forever shall be Lord and God. At his incarnation, he was fully God and fully man....only He could be both. He "used" His diety at certain times, doing things that no human being could do, but when He was tempted, he didn't rely on his deity for victory. I believe He relied on His Father and the Word, as an example for us when we are tested. As God, he allowed himself to be worshipped; if he were ONLY man, I don't think He would have allowed that. What do y'all think?