Posted on 10/08/2001 11:52:28 AM PDT by BreitbartSentMe
We just had our annual United Way meeting/indoctrination at where I work, and I had to sit through their song & dance about the importance of giving, what great stuff they do, etc...... I don't have a problem with giving, but I do have some problems with giving through the United Way; some of the gay/lesbian/enviroNazi/touchy-feely organizations that your gift ends up benefiting, not to mention the 16.7% overhead figure they quoted today (which they say is low) etc. etc. I like to donate directly to the organizations I want to. However, they had 2 interesting points that might lead me to dontate through them this year.
1. This year you can donate to the Sept 11th Fund, on a one-time basis only, and they will send the entire amount to the fund (no overhead)
2. You can designate ANY 501(c) organization to receive your entire gift through the United Way/CHAD payroll deduction. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
Say your local Girl Scout Council is budgeted to receive $200,000. You decide you want to give them (target) your entire contribution of $100/ month. Does the Girl Scout Council then receive $201,200 for the year? Nope. They still get $200,000 of which $1,200 specifically comes from you. In this case it typically costs the Girl Scout Council the price of a thank you card and stamp to personally thank you for the contribution. They end up getting less. The only way the Girl Scout Council will receive more than $200,000 is for a lot of people to do what you did.
Another thing the United Way does that irritates me is they redirect funds. I live in Beavercreek, Ohio an outlying community of Dayton. The United Way here is run out of Dayton (Montgomery County). They collect about $2,000,000 from Greene County (including Beavercreek) out of which only $700,000 makes it's way back to Greene County charitable organizations. The United Way rep told me that I benefit from the organizations in Dayton that receive the lions share of area contributions. I told him the last time I took my child to Children's Medical Center they charged me 3 times the going rate because I had insurance, and there's no way I want any of my funds supporting Planned Parenthood. He said I could make a targeted contribution (refer to 1st example). I told him I knew how the system worked, and he agreed with me. Needless to say, I contribute directly to the organizations I want to support.
You are incorrect....because United Way operates on a regional basis. The region of my location has confirmed in writing to our office that 90 cents on every dollar will reach the specificed charity.Interesting. Their website says differently, stating that they do no better then 13%. Would you mind scanning and posting this letter you rely on? Otherwise I think I’ll rely on what the United Way states publically.
Ummmm...the Boy Scouts of America and The Salvation Army are, both, pre-established and featured charities in my regional United Way location...And they are not in most locations. They are positively discriminated against in some. That is the United Way’s right, but it is our right to avoid giving to them.
However, I think all one needs to do is take a look at this thread to see the biased, non-factual, rantings of followers, innuendo and talking points.I posted facts to you above, and you fail to respond, then you come out with general insults. You have no standing to rant like this unless you respond to the facts that have been posted.
patent +AMDG
Not to challenge your statement, but effective at what? Let's say that I have $1,000 to give to a charitable organization. Let's say that I want to give that to the American Red Cross. Where is the value in giving it to the ARC through the United Way as opposed to giving it directly to the ARC? Whether the true overhead figure is 10% or 17% or 1%, why shouldn't the ARC get that 10% or 17% or 1%? What value is added by the United Way?
I suppose if you just want to give money because you are feeling charitable and don't know who to give it to you can give it to the UW and feel good about yourself. But I would never encourage such a lazy approach to giving. For all you know the money could go to supporting someone with core values diametrically opposed to yours. So, you can designate who it goes to. That brings me back to my question. If you already know who you want to give to, what value does the United Way add for the overhead?
Thanks in advance for the answer.
Shalom.
I got news for you pal. The United Way didn't come after you, your boss did. Take it out on him, not United Way. UW has a written directive that companies are NOT to coerce ANYONED AT ANY TIME. Direct your anger to the truely guilty!Muslims everywhere are proclaiming what a “peaceful” religion Islam is, yet violent jihad, not to mention the even more abhorrent terrorism occurs all over the globe. Forced conversions, genital mutilation, mass killings, all in the name of the peaceful religion.
Same with the United Way, bosses everywhere twisting arms and threatening employees. All in the name of the “non-coercive” United Way. Must be merely a coincidence that these bosses twist these arms only in the name of the poor innocent United Way.
patent +AMDG
Yea, if you want to fund Gay rights, Masturbation videos for kindergarteners, marriage-breaking 'battered' women shelters, the rainbow coalition, and a million other anti-Christian, anti-American, mud-packing hate clubs.
Ahem! Abe was quoting Jesus Christ.
Shalom.
If you designate $ 100 to BSA, then BSA gets $ 100 from you, $ 900 from others. Girl Scouts gets $ 1000 from everyone else.
Both organizations get the same, no matter if you designate or not. The "designation" process is a con game that UW should be ashamed of.
Private email me with your billing address for your donation in the amount of 50% of your annual salary. Thanks for supporting Shoot Straight.
OK, it was a bearded guy who said this, but you missed the timeframe by about 1800 years. LOL!
OK. You've forced me to expand on the "designated charity" scam run by the United Way, here's the deal:
Let's say your favorite charity is the local "Adoption Counseling" organization, because you oppose abortion. OK, so you designate 100% of your weekly payroll donation to go to "Adoption Counseling Inc." Meanwhile, "Adoption Counseling Inc." (ACI) has applied for a $10,000 grant from their local UW affiliate. After jumping through the hoops to make sure that "ACI" meets all of the UW's accounting standards, workplace diversity standards, organizational standards, and UW mission standards, they get the $10,000 grant. Unless the total amount of all "designated" donations to "ACI" exceed $10,000, it makes not one whit of difference to which charity you designate your payroll deduction. "ACI" will still receive only $10,000 - the amount requested in their grant. It's all a public relations gimmick and accounting shell game. I don't know of any charity that has ever received a dime more than they requested in their UW grant as a result of designated donations.
The region of my location has confirmed in writing to our office that 90 cents on every dollar will reach the specificed charity.
If you send it to your specified charity on your own, 100 cents of every dollar will get there.
Let the UW officials get a real job, instead of skimming off the good will of others.
Having substantial connections with a small, but national, charity, I know this is false. Money specifically targeted for this charity was never received by it. The UW excludes countless charities in every area of giving.
I would really like to hear from someone who designated a non-United way Charity who can provide evidence that the donation was actually sent to the charity.
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