Sr. Lucy Receives New Message

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[Antoninus]

Sir, you should pray before posting such tripe. You should also try reading some Church Fathers before embarassing yourself and putting your fathomless ignorance on display for all to see.

Benedicat te omnipotens Deus.

[ruoflaw]

Thank You and Amen...God bless you my friend.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Well said. I hope your advice is heeded.

[A CA Guy]

I'm Catholic, but the problem with this stuff is you can't tell truth from fiction on the net.

If true, you would think the Holy Sea would suggest these directed prayers at this time. The did NOT! Therefore, this is most likely a urban legend type deal here.

[Squire]

I'm not counting on it! Someone has apparently started printing "Maria Monk" again.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

people worship statues, proclaiming the 'Virgin Mary' as equal to christ etc. etc.

Hmmm...I've been Catholic a long time, never once worshipped a statue or heard Mary proclaimed "equal to Christ."

Could you please find some CATHOLIC documents that tell us to worship statues or make Mary equal to Christ, so I can read them for myself?

One caveat...they need to be from Catholic Church sources, not from some anti-Catholic bigot's web site who says this is what Catholics believe.

If you can find these things, I really would like to read them. Of course, please don't say that "praying to Mary" equals "making Mary equal to Christ." That is your ignorance, not our belief. We know better than that.

[Riley]

St. Lucy Receives New Message

Thanks a lot. Now I'm going to have to go dig up some Vince Guaraldi Trio.

[Squire]

Great Luther quotes. I had heard about his devotion to the Virgin, but hadn't seen actual quotes. Excellent.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Will we have to wait a few months for Cardinal Ratzinger to prepare a commentary and omit any references to future "blood baths" so the message can be referred back to May 13, 1981 exclusively? What was that earlier Fatima description of a white-robed bishop walking among dead bodies? Was Fr. Judge of NYC (RIP 9/11/01) maybe one of them?

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Didn't the previous "clarification" from the Vatican limit the meaning of the prophetic Fatima messages to Sr. Lucy to the past? If the current rumor is true, how are they gonna handle this one?

[John Locke]

He also added the Litany of Loreto the invocation: Queen of the Most Holy Rosary, pray for us.

And those words are written in gold on the arch that separates nave and choir in the Basilica at Fatima.

"Regina sacradissimi rosarii fatimae, ora pro nobis."

[Iris7]

Thank you for your fine work this evening. Please, all of you, accept my appreciation and respect.

[Iris7]

And to you, also, Marine.

[John Locke]

By the way, this all took place around the year 1900.

Actually, in 1884. The Prayer was published on 25 September 1888:

SANCTE Michael Archangele, defende nos in proelio, contra nequitiam et insidias diaboli esto praesidium. Imperet illi Deus, supplices deprecamur: tuque, Princeps militiae coelestis, Satanam aliosque spiritus malignos, qui ad perditionem animarum pervagantur in mundo, divina virtute, in infernum detrude. Amen.

[thinktwice]

Your post 145 ... Mary needed a Saviour because, as a human, she was under the sentence of Original Sin. ... tells me that you are no expert in Roman Catholic dogma.

Try looking up "Immaculate Conception" in the dictionary.

[fortitude]

Actually, in 1884. The Prayer was published on 25 September 1888:

Thanks for posting the correct date! Satan has had his hundred years and then some. It is clearly evident in the "goings on" of Cardinals and Bishops.

One consolation, we know that Mary's Immaculate Heart will win out. Pray the Rosary.

[Squire]

Your post 145 ... Mary needed a Saviour because, as a human, she was under the sentence of Original Sin. ... tells me that you are no expert in Roman Catholic dogma. Try looking up "Immaculate Conception" in the dictionary.

You did not read the entire post, and what you did read, you apparently did not understand. All human flesh is under the sentence of Original Sin. The Dogma of Immaculate Conception is that the Virgin was preserved from the stain of Original Sin from the moment of her conception by a prospective application of the merits of the Redemption. That is a distinct issue. To say, as you suggest, that the Virgin was not under the sentence of Original Sin would be the equivalent of saying that she did not need to be redeemed. The Church does not so teach.

Now, was it Pope -- no pun intended -- who said, "a little learning is a dangerous thing"? In any case, whoever it was, please take heed.

[Cap'n Crunch]

In "The Great Heresies" Belloc also points out that Vienna was saved from Mohammadanism on Sept. 11th 15??.

Interesting we attack on Oct. 7th

Keep saying that rosary.

[ninenot]

I recall Belloc's categorization of Mohammedanism as a 'great heresy,' but I did NOT recall his prediction of another uprising. No surprise, however; been talked about in Catholic and Jewish circles since the mother of all wars, anyway...

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

Keep the faith.