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I don't mind the INS treating me like a criminal just because I am visiting the USA. Well, all right, I do mind but haven't complained before. I mind terribly that the INS, which let in a lot of Arab terrorists, conferred citizenship on them, left their papers unchallenged, is acting like Hitler's brownshirts when dealing with this poor woman. Her husband is a bloody hero - I hope that the Freepers will share my sheer outrage and anger at this and that we can do something about this.

Regards, Ivan

But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science. Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that, if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, "This was their finest hour."

Today is Trinity Sunday. Centuries ago words were written to be a call and a spur to the faithful servants of Truth and Justice: "Arm yourselves, and be ye men of valour, and be in readiness for the conflict; for it is better for us to perish in battle than to look upon the outrage of our nation and our altar. As the Will of God is in Heaven, even so let it be." - Winston Churchill, 1940

This then, my lords and gentlemen, is the message which we send forth today to all states and nations, bound or free, to all the men in all the lands who care for freedom's cause. To our Allies and well-wishers in Europe, to our American friends and helpers drawing ever closer in their might across the ocean, this is the message-lift up your hearts, all will come right. Out of depths of sorrow and sacrifice will be born again the glory of mankind. - Winston Churchill, 1941




LET US GO FORWARD TOGETHER

1 posted on 10/07/2001 2:42:39 AM PDT by MadIvan
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2 posted on 10/07/2001 2:43:05 AM PDT by MadIvan
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This is madness!

I live in AZ and local news covers the flood of illegals into the US all the time. If I recall...part of the Democratic election strategy is to encourage illegals to vote early (and often).

This poor woman must be viewed as a Conservative by the mindless bureaucrats and therefore not entitled to some slack.

9 posted on 10/07/2001 2:51:17 AM PDT by borisbob69
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Can anyone think of a reason why this criminally incompetent organization should not be disbanded IMMEDIATELY? I want to know why they aren't out looking for terrorists instead of wasting time harassing this family.

I love the local law enforcement response, the INS weenies should get a clue.

12 posted on 10/07/2001 3:00:53 AM PDT by E.Allen
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I have had the same experience with the INS such as threats of deportation or barring my coming back in the US with my US wife and kids because I had been working for too long in Germany as a German. Let me have the pleasure to make an unPC remark: When I finaly got my citizenship recently, at the ceremony, there were a good 10% of muslims out of the 100 people, half of which were long bearded extremists. Had they deported me, I would have made a fuss. No, worse, they would have barred me entry to the US, but any nobody coming with a visit tourist visa would have been welcome and would have been able to violate their visa without any authority ever finding out. THe US is becoming notorious for harrassing people who do their homeworks and not looking for those who hide and never do it.

Normaly the INS allows people to get a lawyer and appeal those kinds of deportation of widows of dead US citizens. However most lawyers want a good relationship with the INS and keep a low profile with them. At my interview, it became so bad with my lawyer that I ended up defending my own lawyer from the aggressive INS agent that was screaming at her!!! Talk about a bunch of ball-less idiots that comprise 90% of the lawyers are out there, so much so their clients come in and defend them.

Needless to tell you I was pied off at my stupid lawyer. NEVER AGAIN! SHOP WELL FOR YOUR LAWYER, only 1 out of 10 is good.

23 posted on 10/07/2001 3:15:55 AM PDT by lavaroise
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I am stunned and shocked to hear about this.
I think you know that most "normal" citizens in the USA view England as our best friend.
And friends stick together.
This situation MUST be handled, no if's and's or but's.
God Bless Britian
from an American friend.
25 posted on 10/07/2001 3:18:27 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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Her congressman's email:

Rodney.Frelinghuysen@mail.house.gov

27 posted on 10/07/2001 3:19:56 AM PDT by Peter W. Kessler
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Wow!!! Unbelievable. That is really an outrage. Thanks for the article.
32 posted on 10/07/2001 3:24:04 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: MadIvan,To All
Guide to Local Media
Locate media in your zip code, gives you links to YOUR local media with phone, e-mail etc info.

MadIvan: 10001 is zipcode for New York City media.
33 posted on 10/07/2001 3:24:05 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You must read the Message Board Terms & Conditions before you read or post! ILLEGAL ALIEN IN NEW YORK What should the U.S. government do about the WTC attack widow? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- this is dispicable by michael its about time the united states realised who its friends are all uk citizens should be allowed duel nationality.the uk is the only country that supports america 100% everytime,and its citizens should be granted access to work and live if they want to.as a point of information the uk is excluded from the annual green card lottery,but a lot of the arab countrys are allowed to apply.this stinks,all you import is trouble,and people who have no respect for the host country.ie the united states
52 posted on 10/07/2001 3:42:09 AM PDT by mike2246
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Her family and friends have come up with another solution: they are calling for Mr Blair, the Prime Minister, to intervene directly with President Bush.

If Mr. Bush is at all on the ball he will quote his father's comment on the communist coup attempt at the end of the USSR. "This shall not stand!" It's one thing if the locals defend this woman, as rightly they seem to be doing. But Mr. Bush should announce his support on nationwide TV to assure that the word gets out.

For if "the problem comes down to a delay in the couple's application for Green Card status - because the immigration service office in Newark, New Jersey, lost a sheaf of papers," what assures us that that office's computer will not put a priority on evicting her?

But if those INS people (and I use the term loosely in this case) see it on TV they will know it is important.

60 posted on 10/07/2001 3:50:05 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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Yet another example of our fedgov treating innocent citizens and non-citizens like criminals, meanwhile the illegal monsters are crossing our borders with impunity.

The most ridiculous statement of all is that the "rule book" says her 3- and 7- year old sons can stay but she has to go. Outrageous!

61 posted on 10/07/2001 3:50:52 AM PDT by LiberteeBell
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To: MadIvan
Quote of the Day by EggsAckley
68 posted on 10/07/2001 4:18:22 AM PDT by RJayneJ
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nice flags
69 posted on 10/07/2001 4:25:33 AM PDT by Pistacio
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I would like to see what the INS's reasons are for deporting her ie, is she a suspected terrorist, tied to muslim radicals?....what?
71 posted on 10/07/2001 4:30:54 AM PDT by Bad~Rodeo
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To Contact Rodney Frelinghuysen, congresscritter from her district:

WASHINGTON, D.C. 2442 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515-3011 (202) 225-5034

Legislative Office

Chief of Staff -- Donna Mullins

Deputy Chief of Staff -- Nancy Fox

Legislative Director -- Pamela Curtin

Legislative Aide -- Kim Champi

Legislative and Communications Assistant -- Steve Burke

Legislative Correspondent -- Maureen Benitz

NEW JERSEY

30 Schuyler Place, Second Floor

Morristown, NJ 07960

(973) 984-0711

80 posted on 10/07/2001 4:48:45 AM PDT by ventana
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Contacted the Times (Trenton), Trentonian, and Rep. Rush Holt (D-NJ,why'd they move Chris Smith away from me?). Still need to dig up Torricelli and Corzine emails.

We need the push from other states as well.

81 posted on 10/07/2001 4:49:00 AM PDT by bubbafree
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Chatham's police chief George Kurzenknabe has even promised that he "will barricade the house" if immigration officials dare to approach with a deportation warrant.

That's the kind of cop I want on my local force...

85 posted on 10/07/2001 5:00:02 AM PDT by Ol' Sox
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Ah. Something to fight for now. I'm sending this post to every local editor with an email. Millions of Mexicans are here to better their lives and this one poor woman can't even grieve her husband without the INS and IRS picking over the bones first. Shameful.
93 posted on 10/07/2001 5:24:20 AM PDT by Glenn
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Here's the e-mail of Chief Kurzenknabe: CTPD1@aol.com I sent him a note.
98 posted on 10/07/2001 5:40:48 AM PDT by Shannon
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Unbelievable. They let the terrorists, who were on a watch list as known terrorists, into this country, but they won't let the mother of two American citizens stay after her husband died?

Over my dead body. FReepers, we have to make a stink about this in Washington.

My senators will be hearing about this!!!

102 posted on 10/07/2001 5:45:19 AM PDT by jude24
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