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TERRORIST HAD PASSPORT FROM NONEXISTENT COUNTRY
Pravda | 10/06/2001 | Timothy BANCROFT-HINCHEY

Posted on 10/06/2001 7:12:24 AM PDT by Merovingian

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To: Congressman Billybob
In short, one of the Boston planes would not have gotten off the ground, and one of the World Trade Center Towers would still be standing, if we had not had A MORON AT THE SECURITY DESK IN BOSTON.

D'Accord! Pathetic commentary on the state of things. Don't know what they pay these people, but basd on what I see each time I travel to Europe, they are not required to pass IQ tests, OR to speak intelligible English.

I have heard of you, Congressman, from oneyedjack in NC...I think he said he got your autograph.

41 posted on 10/06/2001 8:43:52 AM PDT by Merovingian
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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
They have a big celebration in Key West every year to celebrate their "independence". Out in the harbor the commercial fishing boats surround the cruise ships and hose them doen with their monitors. It's fun to watch!
42 posted on 10/06/2001 8:48:12 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: Merovingian; Mercuria (BWAHAHA ALERT!)
I don't know whether to laugh. Or cry.
 
Published Wednesday, October 3, 2001

FBI examining Conch `passport' link

BY JENNIFER BABSON
jbabson@herald.com

KEY WEST -- They are touted as being tongue-in-cheek but look authentic: navy blue and red ``passports'' embossed with a ``Conch Republic'' crest -- complete with photo, blank official-looking pages for immigration stamps, personal identification information and expiration dates.

Now federal investigators are trying to find out whether Mohamed Atta, one of the men believed to be a key player in last month's terrorist attacks against the United States, added one of these novelties to his collection of travel documents.

After discovering that a man named Mohamed Atta applied for and likely received one of the passports in September 2000, FBI agents are now combing through thousands of pages of supporting material provided by a Key West group that champions the Keys as the ``Conch Republic'' and issues its own passports.

One thing that piqued federal investigators' interest: Peter Anderson, steward of the group, says he has used his Conch Republic passport to enter the United States five times and enter Caribbean countries multiple times.

Investigators still aren't sure, however, if the Mohamed Atta who applied for the novelty passport is the same man believed to have piloted the first plane that slammed into the World Trade Center in New York Sept. 11.

They have yet to locate documents Atta would have had to provide -- including an affidavit that includes address, telephone number and e-mail -- among the reams of documents taken from Anderson.

``All I know is what we've been told, that we did issue a passport to a Mohamed Atta,'' Anderson said Tuesday.

CHECKING RECORDS

FBI agents hauled away boxes of records, but have been unable to find Atta's passport application and his accompanying passport snapshots, a federal investigator said. An FBI spokeswoman declined to comment Tuesday.

Agents did find someone in the registration book under the name Atta from New York, but cannot say if it was the suicide hijacker.

Agents are sifting through the records to determine if anyone else with a hijacker's name purchased a passport.

The FBI went to Anderson's passport office after agents were notified by the U.S. Postal Inspection Service.

Anderson is the self-proclaimed secretary general of the Conch Republic -- a bunch of merrymakers who coalesce around a 10-day Keys ``independence festival'' every April and dub themselves the ``World's First Functioning Meritocracy.'' Anderson's group has issued about 10,000 passports since 1993.

Standard blue passports, often applied for through the mail, retail for between $100 and $109. Red ``Diplomat'' passports are issued to ``dignitaries'' -- special friends of the breakaway band or those willing to pay as much as $1,200 apiece.

Passport applicants are also required to provide a notarized copy of their genuine passport or other official documentation from country of residence, and three photographs.

APPLICANT SURGE

In fall 2000, Anderson says the Conch Republic received a sudden flood of mail-order applicants, many of them with Arab surnames and from countries such as India, Pakistan and the United Arab Emirates.

After the Discovery Channel began regularly replaying a segment that included information on the passport program, ``we started receiving a lot of requests from people all over the world and from people who were in the U.S. who we had reason to believe may not have been in the U.S. legally,'' Anderson said.

It was at that point, Anderson said, that he had a private investigator and friend, David Burns, contact the Immigration and Naturalization Service. Burns says he telephoned the INS's enforcement department in Miami to let them know that a ``large number'' of people who appeared to be foreign nationals were applying for the passports.

``The response was, `OK, I'll call a supervisor and tell him to get back to you,' '' Burns recalled Tuesday. ``Nobody ever called me back.''

Anderson said that some of the requests were from Florida and some included post office boxes as mailing addresses. Citing ``security issues,'' he declined to elaborate.

``The Conch Republic is being entirely cooperative with the FBI,'' Anderson said.

He added that people have used the Conch passports to enter more than 30 countries, including the United States. ``You get a lot of scrutiny,'' he said. ``We had a `diplomat' go into Russia with his passport.''

A review of Anderson's Conch Republic passports shows what appear to be five red INS stamps, including a May 29, 1998, stamp at Miami International Airport, three from Key West and a 1994 stamp in San Juan, Puerto Rico. Some of the countries from which Anderson was returning were Caribbean nations where U.S. citizens aren't required to present official passports to visit.

GERMANY TRIP

When the INS stamped Anderson's novelty passport in 1998 at MIA instead of his real one, however, he says he was returning from Germany.

Anderson said he couldn't recall whether immigration officials also ran his U.S. passport through their computers upon reentering the country.

``They might have glanced at it, but they didn't stamp it,'' he said. ``It was, `Welcome home, Mr. Secretary.' I'm in the computer. They know me.''

INS spokesman Rodney Germain declined to comment in depth about the situation.

``We are working closely with the FBI in their investigations of these attacks. There's really no specific details that I can go into.''

Germain did say that INS does not recognize the Conch Republic passport: ``That is not an official U.S. document. What we can say is that we are not going to accept that as an entry document.''

Herald staff writer Manny Garcia contributed to this report.


43 posted on 10/06/2001 8:53:44 AM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: TRY ONE
You are a bigot!
44 posted on 10/06/2001 8:54:52 AM PDT by max epr
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To: Lion's Cub
In fall 2000, Anderson says the Conch Republic received a sudden flood of mail-order applicants, many of them with Arab surnames and from countries such as India, Pakistan and the United Arab Emirates.

After the Discovery Channel began regularly replaying a segment that included information on the passport program, ``we started receiving a lot of requests from people all over the world and from people who were in the U.S. who we had reason to believe may not have been in the U.S. legally,'' Anderson said.

What strikes me about the planning involved is how many "advance scouts" they must have had in place: they knew which states had the most lax driver licenses laws; which airports had the worst security; and that Conch Republic passports were being accepted for the real thing. In other words, they knew more about America's weaknesses than the average American.

When the DOJ talks about "thousands more" still in this country, I wonder if they don't mean "tens of thousands?"

45 posted on 10/06/2001 8:55:28 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: reg45
Which one, Palestine?

Actually, Atta was a Palestinian. Dual Palestinian/American, as a matter of fact. Wanted in Israel for bombings since 1996.

46 posted on 10/06/2001 9:02:01 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: AnnaZ
Published Wednesday, October 3, 2001

Thanks, AnnaZ, the Russkis are only 3 days behind in finding this. Saw it via the link above. No scoop here!!

47 posted on 10/06/2001 9:02:16 AM PDT by Merovingian
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To: snopercod
FLASH: both osama and bush founded the republic of conch. conch is a ally of the U.S.A god bless conch
48 posted on 10/06/2001 9:04:20 AM PDT by Merovingian
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To: TRY ONE
The "Republic of Conch" is located 200 miles north of New Guinea, the Italian Province. "Conchians" are also people who wake up from a bad dream.

Not to be confused with the Republic of Clinton, which is located 200 feet north of the Mustang Ranch in Nevada. "Clintonians" are also people who wake up from a wet dream.

49 posted on 10/06/2001 9:09:30 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: Congressman Billybob
A MORON AT THE SECURITY DESK IN BOSTON.

The same morons who gave us Ted Kennedy and Barney Frank.

50 posted on 10/06/2001 9:15:04 AM PDT by reg45
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To: Merovingian
You need a passport to fly interstate?

Like everybody else during check-in for a flight to LA, the terrorists would have been asked for a picture id
[usually a drivers license].

51 posted on 10/06/2001 9:16:07 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba
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To: First_Salute
We get, "What State is Delaware in?"
52 posted on 10/06/2001 9:18:14 AM PDT by soccergirl
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To: Merovingian
Hey I've been to the Conch Republic; even got a t-shirt!!
53 posted on 10/06/2001 9:22:35 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: MrBambaLaMamba
You need a passport to fly interstate?

Err...no.

54 posted on 10/06/2001 9:22:41 AM PDT by Merovingian
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To: Congressman Billybob
Sadly, no. All we know is that he got these joke travel documents; since this was not an international flight, they would not have been inspected when he got on the plane.

All he needed was a drivers' license, just like you and me.

D

55 posted on 10/06/2001 9:26:52 AM PDT by daviddennis
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To: 537 Votes
Another example of the incompetency of Big Government.

IMMACT90 created an annual flexible cap on immigration of 700,000 in fiscal years 1992-94, and 675,000 thereafter (excluding refugee and asylee adjustments and some other categories). During the transitional years, total immigration included 465,000 family-sponsored immigrants, 140,000 employment-based immigrants, 55,000 spouses and children of legalized aliens, and 40,000 diversity immigrants. Beginning in FY 95, the limit on family-sponsored immigrants was increased to 480,000, employment-based immigration remained at 140,000, and the temporary diversity program was converted to a permanent category with a limit of 55,000 visas annually. The annual cap can exceed 675,000 in any year to the extent that family-sponsored and employment-based preference visas go unused in the previous year.

Read more here.

56 posted on 10/06/2001 9:42:46 AM PDT by Orual
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To: Merovingian
Conch Republic passports are for sale online.
57 posted on 10/06/2001 9:51:58 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Congressman Billybob
"In short, one of the Boston planes would not have gotten off the ground, and one of the World Trade Center Towers would still be standing, if we had not had A MORON AT THE SECURITY DESK IN BOSTON."

The last I racall, I had to show ID at the COUNTER where I picked up my ticket - and this is usually NOT manned by minimum wage burger-flipper types ...

58 posted on 10/06/2001 10:04:36 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: soccergirl
We get, "What State is Delaware in?"

And the answer is "Ohio."

59 posted on 10/06/2001 10:07:12 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: browardchad
When the DOJ talks about "thousands more" still in this country, I wonder if they don't mean "tens of thousands?"

I'd say that's a fair guess. It may be higher than that. I think you'll find some of those sleepers in the government itself. I really believe that the Islamic terrorist network is more widespread and entrenched than the PRC.

60 posted on 10/06/2001 10:40:59 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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