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So You Want a Holy War? (William F. Buckley Jr.)
National Review Online ^ | October 02, 2001 | William F. Buckley Jr.

Posted on 10/02/2001 1:07:50 PM PDT by Drew68

So You Want a Holy War? We have now Islam to deal with. October 2, 2001 1:25 p.m. hatever is or is not authentic transcription of Islamic dogma, we do know that the people who ran the airliners into the World Trade Center believed that a Koranic voice was telling them to do what they did. We have the four-page document that told them not only what to do, but what to think. "Kill them, as God said; No Prophet can have prisoners of war."

They would not cavil, their clerical dispatcher knew, but even so there was a reiteration of the sacradeness of their mission. "Recognize...what God has prepared for believers in endless happiness for martyrs.... Be steadfast and remember [that in] God you will be triumphant."

Here is a strategic suggestion from the Western high command. Declare in full voice that Islam is widely profaned and mistaught. That if it isn't — if the Koranic high exegetes are paralyzed with doubt whether such as the Ladenites are true to their faith — then the faith being practiced must be disavowed by the legitimists. Say as much and say also that the Western world is prepared to denominate the imposters as such and to call for a restoration of a Muslim religion consistent with civilized conduct.

We have done such a thing in the political world. Without using the language of excommunication as such, what we got around to doing in the postwar world was to exclude Communism as an acceptable model for the organization of political life. We did this because, by our experience with Communism in practice and by the exercise of reason, we judged it incompatible with irreversible advances in human behavior. When finally the United States abolished slavery, the word went out: No more. No Christianity cum slavery. One or the other.

We have now Islam to deal with. We do not need to make the point that its political and economic record is miserable, that only one of 18 Muslim states (Turkey) is democratically governed. There are those who are willing to advertise the individual hypocrisies. A spokesman from the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam party, while calling on his faithful to overthrow the government of Pakistan for the sin of maintaining equable relations with the United States, sends his own two sons to the United States to school. The Taliban has taken unmarried women detected in pregnancy and buried them to neck level before execution. Where is Islamic condemnation of such practices? For that matter, where is condemnation of Saudis chopping pickpockets' hands off?

We read of the mobs in Karachi who denounce the United States and flaunt signs that call out to "CRUSH AMERICA." In a pinch, we have to gamble. Perhaps human nature isn't reliably self-interested enough to prefer liberal democracy to protracted tyrannical misery. But we have to hope that the raw instinct is there to welcome relief. There were Kuwaitis who prostrated themselves with gratitude to liberating GIs, even as there are millions of Afghans who flee the wretched world of their Muslim oppressors where they have been kept alive by American food shipments to Afghanistan and bank now on American food shipped to Pakistan, where they will reasonably hope that before America is entirely CRUSHED we will have stored enough food for them and their children.

It is thought to be a sign of toleration to defer to Islam as simply another religion. It isn't that. It is a form of condescension. Carefully selected, there are Koranic preachments that are consistent with civilized life. But on September 11th we were looked in the face by a deed done by Muslims who understood themselves to be acting out Muslim ideals. It is all very well for individual Muslim spokesmen to assert the misjudgment of the terrorist, but the Islamic world is substantially made up of countries that ignore, or countenance, or support terrorist activity. Mustafa Kamal Uddin, a 32-year-old body-and-fender man in Karachi, explained it to a New York Times reporter. You see, he said, holy wars come about only when Allah has no other way to maintain justice, times like now. "That is why Allah took out his sword" on September 11th.

We demand to know: Who taught Mustafa Kamal Uddin to reason in that way, and the crowds in Karachi to support such thinking? Pending an answer to the question, and the unmistakable assumption by reputable Muslims of the responsibility to extirpate such misteaching, renounce modern Islam. Either restore the proper Allah — or get ready for a holy war.


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To: ValerieUSA
I feel like we are, or at least I am, living some really bad B movie. Ben Ladin, the evil, fanatical, genious, having wrecked destruction from afar, retreats to his impenetrable, high tech, mountain fortress. Meanwhile 007... Bond....James Bond, undercover as President of the United States musters his forces to destroy evil...at stake...the survival not only of civilization, but the planet.

It's like some crazy movie has managed to tear it's way thru the movie screen into reality. No wonder so many people are frozen in place. I am begining to wonder if the guy really is the anti-Christ.

101 posted on 10/02/2001 8:05:17 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
It's time for the little character Ross Perot to pop up with some charts about now... or maybe he's waiting for a role in the cartoon version of this bad movie.
102 posted on 10/02/2001 8:58:33 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
He has already been cast as Mini Me, lol.
103 posted on 10/02/2001 9:36:51 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Kalashnikov_68;cool guy; be_baw
Thanks, CG, for the bump. Sorry to jump in so late!

It is thought to be a sign of toleration to defer to Islam as simply another religion. It isn't that. It is a form of condescension Carefully selected, there are Koranic preachments that are consistent with civilized life...

Either restore the proper Allah — or get ready for a holy war.

Sorry, but I think Buckley contradicts himself with this ending sentence. It's like he wants to be all things to all people.

One minute he slams the whole religion, and the next he is saying that Allah has been misinterpreted. The problem is Islam itself.

The fact that there are some very nice sounding sentiments in the Koran does not get around the fact that there are some very hateful ones re Jews and Christian regardless of context. Also, in Mohammed's own life and personal writings, he exhorts to violence against Jews and Christians.

104 posted on 10/02/2001 10:15:15 PM PDT by attagirl
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To: be-baw Travis McGee JohnHuang2 Sawdring
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maybe they should fire WFB like they did Ann Coulter?

105 posted on 10/02/2001 11:56:58 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Yeah, and then the PCers changed "Infinite Justice" too. Are we a nanny nation or what?
106 posted on 10/03/2001 1:56:34 AM PDT by Terrorista Nada
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To: GottliebBerger
Every American had better read Buckley's article because he hit the nail on the head square on.

And I assure you all that Mr. Buckley is neither a socialist or a supporter of Keynesian economic theory, both of which have been proven to be mostly garbage.

107 posted on 10/03/2001 2:04:17 AM PDT by Terrorista Nada
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To: Terrorista Nada
'The problem is with Islam itself.' How misinformed you are. I'm assuming you've read only sections of the Koran, and that too, out of context. If we start quoting barbaric sentences from holy books the Bible would be right there in front. Any religion can be misinterpreted, Christianity included. Wisen up.
108 posted on 10/03/2001 2:11:33 AM PDT by Pallavi_99
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To: be-baw
...any devout Muslim is an extreme fundamentalist Muslim, and that the peaceful ones are like the self-professed Christians who only go to church on Easter Sunday and Christmas.

You said a mouthful.

109 posted on 10/03/2001 2:17:06 AM PDT by Gracey
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To: Pallavi_99
Any religion can be misinterpreted, Christianity included. Wisen up.

From the beginning of time, people have put their own spin on religion to suit their needs for power and control of others. Good point.

110 posted on 10/03/2001 2:18:43 AM PDT by Gracey
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To: Servant of the Nine;Goetz_von_Berlichingen
I agree with you in part. No doubt our modern era leaders have sanitized the harshness of the Old Testament but also it must be noted that in the Christian religion that Christ himself and those who have relayed his word took a path which had more to do with personal salvation and all that encompasses than the history of the Hebrews which did in fact contain what would appear to be God sanctioned violence to "Philistines". I not being Jewish cannot attest as to how Talmudic and Rabbinical contributors have "softened" the Torah since the Macabeees. Islam on the other hand has many many instructions from Allah through Mohammed encouraging or allowing ill treatment of non-believers and a host of other externalized edicts that we would view as harsh and these edicts are not simply part of the "story" to be taken out context but are rather guidelines for behavior. The violent path of Christianity (I'm leaving Judaism out since I'm a goy) has infinitely more to do with human manipulation and exploitation than Christ's words. Islam is much more of a warrior religion simply put by it's very nature.

Now I'm obviously no theologian so I will humbly accept criticism from the plethora of FReepers who are.

Regards

112 posted on 10/03/2001 8:32:59 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: GottliebBerger
He's an internationalist for sure but I feel your description is a bit harsh. I've personally heard him speak out against subjugating ourselves to the UN and treaties on a number of occasions. He's a hardly a Brussels type.
113 posted on 10/03/2001 8:38:05 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: GottliebBerger
Well? ... 2001 is the real first year of the millennium and the NWO (Terrorista Nada puts on his tinfoil hat with the Bilderberger patch).
114 posted on 10/03/2001 10:05:53 AM PDT by Terrorista Nada
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