Low Flying Plane Creates Concern Over Tulsa's Water Supply

KTUL Channel 8, Tulsa, OK ^ | 1 October 2001

[Vigilant1]

Low Flying Plane Creates Concern Over Tulsa's Water Supply

A low flying plane created a concern in Tulsa after witnesses say it dropped something into Tulsa's water supply. The small plane flew over Lake Yahola near Mohawk Park around 3:45 Monday afternoon.

A plane has been detained at Jones Riverside Airport and the FBI is investigating. The instructor and student in the plane that was stopped say they were nowhere near the area.

As a precautionary measure, officials switched Tulsa's water supply to a flow line that runs from Lake Spavinaw. Samples have been taken from the reservoir and sent to a lab for testing to determine if any contaminants may have been introduced into the supply.

[tray-sea]

It's a given.. duh.. its a Zionist behind this , I can feel it!!!

[Mulder]

Mulder, I wasn't really concerned with the little plane in Tulsa, but shouldn't we (the people) and they (the authorities) be watching out for our everyday resources?

Hi. I don't blame you for keeping a close eye on the water supply. It would not surprise me at all if the terrorists tried something with regard to the utilities.

BTW.. do you look like Mulder? If so, we need to talk.

LOL! It's not everyday that I get hit on on FR. Not that I mind :-)

I read your profile, and it said you live in Plano, TX. I used to live there (right off Legacy Drive), and I loved it. I miss it a lot. One of these days, I'm going to have to get back to Texas.

[HiTech RedNeck]

LOL, chlorine in the amounts used for water purification is nontoxic (though annoying). A gulp of even swimming pool water is harmless.

A big enough dose of ammonia or related compounds could create chloramines when the chlorine is added for disinfection.

Getting a goodly size home charcoal filter might be smart.

[HiTech RedNeck]

You're a physician IIRC, and can easily get doxycycline. What about the unprivileged grunts? Also is this oral or does it require shots?

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Treatment of Biological Warfare Agent Casualties, Headquarters Departments of The Army, The Navy and The Air Force and Commandant, Marine Corps Washington, DC

[The Game Hen]

I had a talk with the manager of our local water treatment plant last week. I asked him what they were doing to prevent a terrorist attack.

I was worried about the plant or the dam being destroyed. He was concerned about contamination. He said it wouldn't be necessary to introduce a toxin at the plant or a water tower. Just drill a hole into a water line any where.

At least we use chlorine treated surface water. The town next door uses well water.

[Askel5]

I thought we got our water from Spavinaw.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Wouldn't it make sense that any biowarfare grade bugs would be engineered to be proof to all known antibiotics, even vancomycin -- so that the protection for the aggressor is a special vaccination related to that strain. That's what I would think. Doxy might be preventative for anthrax, etc. in the wild, but the biowarfare bugs would be another story.

[B4Ranch]

doxycycline website

http://www.hovione.com/h_doxy/

[Askel5]

I actually miss fishing in Oklahoma.

Also spent a lot of time hunting arrowheads in the creek below the dam at Spavinaw.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Just drill a hole into a water line any where.

Why do even that. Just rent a home on the city water main, close to the point of origin, and pump the nasties back into the supply through the house's own water main.

The water works needs to be testing at various points in its system, not just the output of the purification plant.

[jae471]

E coli is not necessarily bad. It makes up a good portion of the bacteria in your intestines right now. It is harmless, except for one particular strain, O157:H7. O157:H7 produces a toxin that causes internal hemorrhaging and diarrhea.

Dumping e coli into water supplies may even be beneficial, since e coli produces vitamin k and b-complex vitamins.

Getting e coli is easy, scoop up some feces. Getting O157:H7 requires alot more work. I would be more worried about someone dropping a dead european cow into the water.

[loulou]

What part of West Texas? I am in Odessa and saw alot more contrails in the sky today, but the airshow is coming & pilots (Confederate) have been practicing.....didnt see any jets.

[Poohbah]

We don't have THAT fine control over DNA. Also, any bug that can attack people AND be nice and survivable outside of the human body is going to have a host of functions that render it vulnerable to one or more antibiotics.

[Untouchable]

Case in point, Antibiotic Resistant Tuberculosis.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Terrorists producing their own bio weapon product most likely would not be sophisticated enough to have the wherewithall to create antibiotic resistant bugs. If however they are purchased from a state sponsor of terror, they could be resistant. I'm hoping they do not have the capabilities to create the resistant strains themselves, and Russia has as much reason to prevent their own resistant strains from getting in their hands as we do. Iraq is the wild card here.

[HiTech RedNeck]

I didn't think that DNA control at all would be needed. Just slowly acclimate the bugs in culture to a cumulative, increasing mix of antibiotics -- start simple with things like penicillin and build up to things like vancomycin.

Do I get you however that virulence might be another story. They might get a totally antibiotic resistant bug which wouldn't be strong enough to make anybody sick through normal means of contagion?

[Romulus]

I get mine from da zinc, dawlin.

[Poohbah]

Yeah, that's about it--the bug would spend so much of its efforts on staying alive that it wouldn't be able to attack nearly as well.

[HiTech RedNeck]

They might get a totally antibiotic resistant bug which wouldn't be strong enough to make anybody sick through normal means of contagion?

That is, until it "evolves" again...