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To: COB1;jo6pac
"Real men don't let their women do their fighting for them. It is unnatural and immoral, PC and goofy.

Although I'm not really for it(yes, I did say that I didn't have any problems with it...but that is more on the theory level, than the practical application, due to reasons I mentioned), I have met some women Marines that would kick the a$$ of some particular male Marines. Additionally, although I agree with your general intent, I think your statement is definitedly skewed. The idea is NOT to have "women do their fighting for them", but allowing women who have the desire and qualifications to fight beside them, not instead.

"Men, as a general rule, don't get raped repeatedly when captured; women do."

Very true. And I believe my original post already mentioned that I agree that current mentalities have men predisposed to protect women, much moreso than another male. That type of bias or preferential treatment is part of what would have to change in society for women combatants to even be considered.

My real stance was that if a woman meets the exact same physical and psychological demands, and agrees and understands that there will be not type of preferential treatment in any way or form due to their sex, then perhaps they should be allowed to if they desire. Off hand, I don't see our society accepting it anytime soon, nor do I foresee many women agreeing to those terms, or meeting the requirements.
371 posted on 10/03/2001 7:45:22 AM PDT by Justin Thyme
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To: Justin Thyme
I don't think it's up to the women to decide.
I think it's up to the men to accept, and I don't think our fighting forces as a general rule can do that.
We're no different than any other animal in that the male protects the female because the female is the key to the propagation of the species.
Men are not going to be able to disregard millions of years of mental conditioning just to allow women the "right" to participate in combat on an equal basis.
Women who are demanding this right hold Israel up as their example of women who are the equal of men in combat, but it's just not true. The women are still protected as much as possible.
373 posted on 10/03/2001 8:11:22 AM PDT by COB1
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To: Justin Thyme
Show me a 130 lb BAM who can "deadman carry" a 260 lb Marine!
374 posted on 10/03/2001 8:11:44 AM PDT by CHIEF negotiator
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To: Justin Thyme
I'm gonna type real slow so that maybe you'll understand.

In combat units a bond is formed between brothers. You value your brother's life more than your own. This bond is very akin to love. You mix a split-tail in with these warriors and this bond, this love and dedication, will become confused and corrupted. Unnecessary chances would be taken to protect her. Her friends would be percieved as 'favored', resentment would develop, unit conhesion would suffer. Do you understand?

375 posted on 10/03/2001 8:28:56 AM PDT by 68 grunt
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