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To: Quix
I HAVE NO INTEREST IN DEBATING WHETHER GOD SPEAKS THIS WAY IN OUR ERA OR NOT.

Then you shouldn't post on FR, because anything posted here is fair game for refutation. But OK, I won't attempt to debate, just state my opinion.

Personally, I believe anyone who is "prophesying" in this day and time is either an ignoramus concerning the bible, or is decieved, or is a deciever himself, and I don't give any credibility to the "prophecies" of either one. If you are into this sort of thing, just tune around the short-wave bands late at night and you can find several self-proclaimed "prophets" prophesying almost anything that suits your fancy. I believe this supermarket tabloid-style sensationalism brings unnecessary ridicule by unbelievers upon Christians and upon Christ's church, just as I believe snake-handlers and slick, oily faith healers do. I don't mind being ridiculed for my faith in Jesus Christ, but otoh, I don't feel a need to be ridiculed because of non-scriptural showboating either.

In the 18th chapter of Deuteronomy God said that the test of a true prophet is whether or not the prophet's prophecies are 100% accurate. I don't believe Mr. Clements, or any other present-day "prophet" passes that test. If you know of any proof to the contrary, please post it ASAP as I would like very much to hear about it. I believe, as do most other evangelical Christians, that the day of prophets and prophecies ended with the revelation that Jesus gave to John on the isle of Patmos. In I Co. 13:8 Paul wrote that prophecies would cease, and I believe that occurred at the end of the 1st century AD with the book of the Revelation. If the end-time prophecies that anyone can read in the bible aren't specific enough to satisfy a person's curiosity, that person has more curiosity than God is willing to indulge, IMHO.

But understand, I'm not debating, just giving MHO.

33 posted on 09/30/2001 5:51:42 PM PDT by epow
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To: epow
Personally, I believe anyone who is "prophesying" in this day and time is either an ignoramus concerning the bible, or is decieved, or is a deciever himself, and I don't give any credibility to the "prophecies" of either one.

I understand your trepidation here, but how then do you interpret Acts 2:17-21. Also there WILL be two prophets of God during the tribulation. Revelation is clear on that. I understand it also to mean that God's prophets are 100% correct. But how will we know if we refuse to listen?

38 posted on 09/30/2001 8:09:28 PM PDT by dubyagee
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To: epow
Even energetic respectful discourse is one thing.

hostility prone brickbats is nothing I'm interested in.

I understand your feelings and perspective.

I do believe that the OT prophets had a learning curve AND that they were not always 100% accurate but I'll leave that for you to search out as I don't have it handy and have school work to get to shortly.

I also believe that God will make His prophetic voices purer and purer in our era--that essentially--the dark will get darker and the light lighter.

HE is the one that said in His Scripture that He would not do anything without telling His prophets first.

44 posted on 09/30/2001 8:23:41 PM PDT by Quix
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