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1 posted on 09/29/2001 3:14:13 AM PDT by dennisw
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www.danielpipes.com is NOT his home page but try it and see what you get. Interesting!


http://www.danielpipes.org is his home page. I like what he has to say. It's interesting to see what the Islamic orgs had to say about him prior to WTC 911.

2 posted on 09/29/2001 3:19:18 AM PDT by dennisw
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This man seems to know that of which he speaks. He has been wtching them for years and has tried to warn us about what happened 9-11. IMHO we are learning the hard way that those we considered tin foil hatters are now the mainstream.
3 posted on 09/29/2001 3:23:44 AM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas
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Daniel Pipes stock, already high, just rose in my eyes.

Consider the source and look out your window at what was the WTC or the Pentagon.

4 posted on 09/29/2001 3:31:25 AM PDT by FReethesheeples
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Sooo what did he say that was incorrect??? NOTHING!! Radical Islam is the ANTI-Christ!!...imho.
5 posted on 09/29/2001 3:41:55 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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Note the technique of this hit piece is very similar to the dirty politics of the Clinton administration.

If you doubt the intolerance of Islam, simply consider two elements of it:

1. Look at how they treat women. A dog has more rights than a woman in their societies.

2. In most countries which are predominately Muslim, there is zero tolerance for any other religion. Conversion from Islam to Christianity, for example, can be a death sentence!

6 posted on 09/29/2001 3:55:13 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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Interesting. I had already marked Pipes as an interesting guy who should be read. I had seen one of his recent articles posted here. It was so good, I searched for more from him, wound up at his web page, which is now bookmarked.

I am not surprised he is disliked by CAIR; it is a plus for him for me.

8 posted on 09/29/2001 4:08:06 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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Remember, CAIR is one of the groups that the Bush Administration has been holding out as an example of "moderate" American Muslims. Pipes has gone public exposing CAIR as a radical group posing as moderates. The fact that CAIR is now attacking Pipes tends to confirm Pipes' point.
13 posted on 09/29/2001 4:14:13 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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Pipes has a page on his site demonstrating many of the out-of-context quotes and other deceptions CAIR engages in on "www.danielpipes.com."
16 posted on 09/29/2001 5:06:36 AM PDT by BurkeanCyclist
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Daniel Pipes questioned CAIR's "moderate Muslim" stand on Fox news this week. He said that while they openly talk about "tolerance," behind the scenes they support the most radical fractions. It seems like they are doing damage control.
17 posted on 09/29/2001 5:17:03 AM PDT by wjeanw
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"...The irony in [an article written by Pipes] is of course that Dr. Pipes and other radically and blindly pro-Zionist American Jews are much farther along the chauvinist and ultimately anti-American spectrum than are even radical American Muslims."

Funny, I can live with and probably even agree with Pipes' commentary, yet it sure seems to me that the WTC was destroyed by radical American Muslims, hence they can't live with us.

21 posted on 09/29/2001 6:14:10 AM PDT by Cvengr
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I have reached the point of tolerance where I have no sympathy for these hyphenated Americans. If they are interested in gaining the concerns of Americans for their fight against discrimination they should go out in the streets and demand that their Mosques and Charitable Organizations immediately open their books and doors for investigation. Until then they should continued to be treated like subversives by the entire nation.
22 posted on 09/29/2001 6:17:46 AM PDT by Fearless Flyers
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BTTT
31 posted on 09/29/2001 7:50:57 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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Go to Pipes' own web site (NOT DanielPipes.com) for a point-by-point refutation of this screed. CAIR is what would have been called a "fellow traveler" organization during the Cold War and uses the same tactics. Unfortunately, W. has given some credibility to these people when in fact they should be exposed as the propoganda front of terrorist organizations.
35 posted on 09/29/2001 8:20:59 AM PDT by financeprof
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Subject: The Copts need a Strong and Clear voice
From: <Philopater@copticdigest.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 17:32:22 -0400

Dear Readers:

An old proverb says that lies have short legs or in Arabic Elkidib Regleeh
Kosiera. Over the past few years an organized and well-financed public
relations campaign has been orchestrated in the United States media. It has
been proclaiming that there is a strong and large Muslim Arabic voting
block in the US. One will have to admit that they did a decent job as their
exaggeration of the numbers of Muslims and Arabs may have even persuaded or
deceived some members of the media and the Congress.

The recent terrorist attack seems to have torpedoed among other things the
US Arab and Muslim groups self proclaimed importance and political clout
based on numbers. For a starter, many of the papers admit now that the
majority of the so-called Arab Americans are actually Christians not
Muslims. Using data published by the Economist magazine of September 22,
2001 page 31, a breakdown by religion of those so called Arab Americans are
42% catholic, 23% orthodox, 12% protestant and 23% Muslim, i.e. 77% are
Christian and only 23% are Muslim. Furthermore a breakdown by origin is as
follows: 56% from Lebanon, 14% from Syria, 11% from Egypt, 9% from
Palestine, 4% from Jordan, 2% from Iraq, and 4% categorized as other.
Furthermore, most of the Muslims in the US are blacks not Arabs.

Most of the Christians who left their homelands in the Middle East have
done so, because of the persecution of the Arabs and Turks for the
Christian minorities for centuries. The Christian minorities cannot by any
extent of the imagination called as Arabs. They are the descendants of the
original population of the Middle East when the Arabs conquered it circa
638 AD, and who survived the centuries of persecution, impoverishment by
the levied taxation, and forced Islamization and Arabization.

It is interesting to note that the public relations and propaganda campaign
in the US has been exaggerating its strength and political clout for so
long using the mostly Christian population which immigrated from the Middle
East, while denying the facts of ongoing discrimination, persecution and
out right violence committed against the very same population in their own
countries in the Middle East. Again regardless of its lack of truth, one
will have to admire the well-organized Arabic and Islamic propaganda
machine in the US for its effectiveness.
Only recently groups of Christians from Middle East origin including the US
Copts started banding together to defend the human rights of the Christian
minorities in the Middle East. I urge all the readers to consider most
carefully the consequences of this situation. We are being used against our
own will and interest by a well-financed Arabic and Islamic public relation
campaign. A strong and clear voice for the Copts in the American media is
needed. You all have a role in educating the media and public at large
about the Copts and their quest for human rights and equality in their own
homeland. I ask you all to support the US Copts and the Coptic Information
Center. Please check the US Copts web page on www.copts.com and contribute
generously. You can also send your contribution by mail to
The US Copts Association
8116    Arlington Blvd #155
Falls Church, VA 22042
U.S.A.

Philopater
A proud Coptic-American

37 posted on 09/29/2001 8:45:27 AM PDT by Lent
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Nothing is going to be done about ANY of this unless and until you write or call your congressman. Even Liberal congressmen are mostly for kicking them out of the country, but will not act unless they know they have the publics support.

There is a scripture that says there is a time to reap and and time to sow. In my opinion there is also a time to be kind and generous, and a time to be outraged and hostile. It is ok to be furious about the danger that liberal immigration policies placed us in. So please let them hear it in Washington.

41 posted on 09/29/2001 9:12:08 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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