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Mark Steyn: Fight Now, Love Later (The awfulness of an Oprahesque response)
National Review Online ^ | September 28, 2001 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 09/28/2001 1:06:34 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz

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Another good one by Steyn.
1 posted on 09/28/2001 1:06:35 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: LibertarianLiz
Steyn does have a way with words. Thanks for the post Liz.
2 posted on 09/28/2001 1:20:59 PM PDT by TroutStalker
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To: kcpopps, barker, Free State Four, KC Conspirator, Carol Ann
Bump.
3 posted on 09/28/2001 1:22:04 PM PDT by TroutStalker
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To: LibertarianLiz
A terrorist is an opportunistic warrior. If he can kill the president, he will. But if he can't, he'll kill you. Imagine that.

Words to remember.

4 posted on 09/28/2001 1:23:30 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Pokey78
Bump.
5 posted on 09/28/2001 1:23:47 PM PDT by TroutStalker
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To: TroutStalker
It's like being told "Gee, that was really special" by a hooker.

Mark, stop it, you're killing me!!!! Great piece, TS. Thanks for the ping. fsf

6 posted on 09/28/2001 1:31:03 PM PDT by Free State Four
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To: OLDWORD
You should be reading Mark Steyn regularly. Here's his latest.

Billybob

7 posted on 09/28/2001 1:40:07 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: snopercod,joanie-f,mommadooo3,brityank,Covenantor,JeanS
Bump.

The symbols of harshness in the films of WW-II, by virtue of contrasting images, tend to mislead the American people into thinking that Hitler overwhelmed Germany, and anti-Semitism overwhelmed the Germans.

But we now witness how the loss of individual courage among the Germans, is really what was necessary for the darkness to prevail over people who should know better.

As hard as it was for the Germans to see --- repeat, to see --- themselves in their darkest hour, so it is now true for Americans.

We look around and still much of our lives seems "normal" and orderly.

But Americans are now different and afraid to act in defense of our neighbors.

I probably did not "know a soul" among the dead of 11 September, but they were my neighbors.

I have not lost that.

8 posted on 09/28/2001 1:46:33 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: LibertarianLiz
Bump. Great article..
9 posted on 09/28/2001 1:49:21 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: LibertarianLiz
BUMP
10 posted on 09/28/2001 1:56:14 PM PDT by Artist
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To: LibertarianLiz, TroutStalker
"If we can't get outraged — not sad, not weepy, not candle-in-the-windy, but outraged.../ — then we're really in trouble"

This is a great article. I'll keep some quotes from this handy. Thanks for posting and the ping.

11 posted on 09/28/2001 1:59:36 PM PDT by kcpopps
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To: LibertarianLiz
"Saying you love everyone in general is like saying you love no one in particular."

Bears repeating.

12 posted on 09/28/2001 2:07:29 PM PDT by FairWitness
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To: LibertarianLiz
Thanks for the post! I have a horrible feeling that the Oprahfication of all of this is already well advanced.
13 posted on 09/28/2001 2:08:57 PM PDT by livius
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To: First_Salute
But Americans are now different and afraid to act in defense of our neighbors.

I read in another article somewhere recently (can't recall exactly where) a question posed by the author.

Are we too politically correct and racially sensitive to win this fight?

I hate to say that I think we might be; but that is my gut reaction to the question. What do you think?

14 posted on 09/28/2001 2:31:47 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: LibertarianLiz,calygpin,joanie-f,JeanS,snopercod,Alamo-Girl,RJayneJ
Cal Thomas tried to convince me that a conservative national newspaper cannot work.

And he did it in the usual "important high up in the Republican ranks" fashion, about 30 seconds.

He, Rush Limbaugh, et al, who "champion" competitive enterprise, are all petrified of actually investing, sacrificing, in it.

As well-circulated as those talking heads may be, they are woefully insufficient to be a presence in our everyday lives where we need something to combat the monopoly of definition which is the bounty of socialists.

Socialists are able to define who we are [supposed to be].

Pakistani ISI and Taliban "leaders" have defined who and what are their followers, and who and what are such peoples' enemies.

And so we suffer from lies.

Whom do you know, subscribes to The Washington Times?

Whom do you know, does that as a gift subscription to their local library?

If the liberals are able to continue to "teach" people [thru the 'liberal media'] that there is only the color red, and the conservatives have a few blue ink blots but not much else, we may expect people to act on the information available to them:

Red.

Now we can continue to sit and complain about all the talk about Red and how unfair it is that the color Blue doesn't get equal coverage ...

... and therefore we can continue ...

... and therefore we can continue ...

Well forget that, if you want to at least have a fighting chance.

This country most hurts because good people get bad information.

Is it not apparent by now that the 'liberal media' are NOT going to provide good info?

Yep.

So we must compete.

And the answer to your question is in the short term, Yes, but in the long term, No.

We have really good people in America.

They need good information to act upon.

Think about it.

The liberals participate in a war of information, in this country, but the conservatives do almost nothing but complain about how unfair it is.

That nearly is, literally, sickening; because it appears that the conservatives [who are so full of talk about how self-determined they are], are unable to operate an ongoing enterprise without government favoritism. Meaning, that their version of what must be done about the 'liberal media' is that their should be laws leveling the playing field.

That's conservativism? Capitalism? Free Enterprise?

No!

And so we witness how poor are our leadership.

It is disgusting.

What we can do is to encourage Freepers to get the word out about the available conservative media and then get that media into the public eye.

When in Washington, DC, pick up copies of The Washington Times and then distribute them. Give a stack to a truck driver who'll pass them along. Give a stack to a river boat tug crew.

Take a stack back to Hometown, U.S.A. and pass 'em out to your friends.

In other words, do what you can to take away the 'liberal media's' monopoly on defining who you are, and you'll find that some people recover their sense of individual responsibility and duty.

Because they know of possibilities other than Red.

15 posted on 09/28/2001 3:04:23 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: verb
Bump.
16 posted on 09/28/2001 3:08:02 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: First_Salute
The symbols of harshness in the films of WW-II, by virtue of contrasting images, tend to mislead the American people into thinking that Hitler overwhelmed Germany, and anti-Semitism overwhelmed the Germans.

But we now witness how the loss of individual courage among the Germans, is really what was necessary for the darkness to prevail over people who should know better.

Your reply is eye-opening. I don't know if it is loss of individual courage these days, seems more like selfishness--oh well, they're dead, and I'm not, and it happened 3,000 miles away, and I don't know anybody that died, anyway, and they're not showing the planes flying into the buildings on TV anymore, and even if they were, it all happened so very long ago, and I sent in a donation, and I'm so tired after working eight hours--or perhaps it's lethargy--it takes a lot of energy to be outraged to the point of action--and the whole thing is so terribly distasteful and far away--it's messy killing people and breaking things, after all, even though all these people died on U.S. soil, our government is sending soldiers not out into our streets to find these people (supposedly the FBI is doing that) but somewhere "over there," far away where funny sounding people wearing funny clothes living in dirty shacks live, they're practically subhuman don't you know?

Nah, you're right, it's lack of courage.

17 posted on 09/28/2001 3:20:51 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: LibertarianLiz
A terrorist is an opportunistic warrior. If he can kill the president, he will. But if he can't, he'll kill you. Imagine that.

Hey Oprah, did you see this quote? It certainly sends a chill up my spine.

18 posted on 09/28/2001 3:29:00 PM PDT by mombonn
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To: TroutStalker
Thanks for the Bump!
19 posted on 09/28/2001 3:30:10 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: livius
I have a horrible feeling that the Oprahfication of all of this is already well advanced

No doubt! And this woman with all her New Age, liberal, wacko ideas has done more to damage the fundamentals of our society than most.

20 posted on 09/28/2001 4:53:57 PM PDT by Mahone
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