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To: RaceBannon
Those who commit the worst excesses are Third World people, and some European countries, there have been examples of Christians also committing the same crimes against other Christians and Muslims, of Muslims committing atrocities against other Muslims.

Many use religion as an excuse but some use race, as they are taking over are jobs, or they are kidnapping and enslaving are children or they put spells on me.

I have done anti terrorist and peace keeping operations in North Ireland, the Balkans, and parts of Africa, and I have seen real hatred and the worst of human behaviour, I have also seen very decent people trying to stay decent.

In all cases it is extremist whipping up hatred based on ignorance and fear. We must not fall into the same trap, we do not have the same excuse we are better educated and informed( do I really believe that)

If we are to fight this war we must go for the trouble makers remove them, the terrorist leaders, the financial supporters, the enforcers, the propagandists.

For the crowds all they really need is a decent economy so that they can work and feed there family. Once we have wiped out the terrorist we should take a long hard look at helping these nations in sorting them self’s out once and for all

Tony

28 posted on 09/28/2001 5:41:23 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh
Tony come on, we are tired of the liberal mantra, throw money at it. Most of the highjackers on those planes were middle to upper middle class and educated.

They are ignorant alright, but they are much more than just that, they are evil. They are as evil as Cain, jealous of their place with God, unable to accept as we do that Jews are the chosen people, and it would not suprise me if they were his decendents. They are as jealous and full of hate as Ismael and his egyptian mother who they do claim.

Here is what God says of them Genesis 16:12 "and he will be a wild donkey of a man, His hand will be against everyone, and everyones hand will be against him, and he will live to the east of all his brothers". To live to the east is to be an extremist. I think this discription covers them pretty well.

The only thing that is going to sit them back on their haunches, and give them pause, is to bomb Mecca, and destroy their holy places. Power is all they understand and brutality, if they see their holy places leveled, they will give a second thought as to their timing, that this might not be the time to fulfill the Koran.

32 posted on 09/28/2001 6:01:14 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: tonycavanagh
we are better educated and informed( do I really believe that)

There you go with your religion, again. Your beliefs, their beliefs.

Somebody needs to do a body count through history. Count how many of them killed non-them, and how many of us killed non-us.

35 posted on 09/28/2001 6:09:49 AM PDT by packrat01
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To: tonycavanagh
Those who commit the worst excesses are Third World people, and some European countries, there have been examples of Christians also committing the same crimes against other Christians and Muslims, of Muslims committing atrocities against other Muslims.

In the true sense of the word "Christian" a follower of Jesus Christ, who advocated non-violence and love, the followers who call themselves Christian are not following Jesus.

The followers of Islam are following their leader Mohammed a warrior, who advocated violence against non-believers. Women are held in low regard and are treated no better than slaves in most Moslem countries including the moderate countries like Saudi Arabia.

63 posted on 09/28/2001 9:55:28 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: tonycavanagh
For the crowds all they really need is a decent economy so that they can work and feed there family. Once we have wiped out the terrorist we should take a long hard look at helping these nations in sorting them self’s out once and for all

Ah yes, nation-building...The liberals would love that. A chance to start from scratch, with a "level playing field"....yah, riiight...

Semper Fi

78 posted on 09/28/2001 11:42:14 AM PDT by Trident/Delta
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