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Hitlery on Letterman
me | 09/27/2001

Posted on 09/27/2001 8:54:47 PM PDT by KsSunflower

Ok, have at it...Hitlery's on Dave. I hope they talk about how much Dave loves Rudy!!


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To: coteblanche
Sleep well in the shadow of the United States, Canada.
261 posted on 09/27/2001 11:07:48 PM PDT by Crowcreek
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To: secondamendmentkid
I fashioned a slingshot out of a tree branch and some newspaper rubber bands. My neighbor has some tennis ball cans and balls. Where can I register these devices?
262 posted on 09/27/2001 11:08:57 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: firebrand, StarFan, stanz, Dutchy, evilC
You must come over here and see this thread... it got pretty heated tonight! ;-)
263 posted on 09/27/2001 11:10:48 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: coteblanche
Shuddup, coteblanche. Hillary was, is and will always remain a total fraud. She does not have a single sincere bone in her body. Now that her husband is fading from the scene, she's the one who's wearing the mantle, and will probably soon outdo him in irrelevance and naked but futile ambition. We don't like her, get it? She's a criminal. Do some research, for God's sake, before it's too late.
264 posted on 09/27/2001 11:11:22 PM PDT by willyboyishere
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To: Swede Girl
Hey Swede Girl!! I was totally repulsed! I wasn't going to watch it, but landed on it while channel-flipping, and it's kind of like an accident; you don't want to look cuz you know it will make you sick, but you can't help it. . . .

I was totally repulsed by the "me, me, me" garbage! She "wanted to talk about Laura Bush," and then proceeded to talk about "me, me, me!" "I'm so proud of Laura Bush and her PSAs about the children. *I* was down at the schools, and *I* was talking to the children, and *I* stopped and saw this little boy who had lost his father that day and listened to his story, and *I* did this, that, and the other, and *I* think Laura Bush is so right. We need to listen to the children." Gag, spit, barf!! Give me a break!! HOW in the world was that about Laura Bush? She didn't mention Laura being in the schools at Ground Hero at all! Only her PSAs!! Blech!!

Can we get a GAG order on that horrifying PIAPS?! Cripes! She is UNbelievable! They need to rewrite the Narcissus story, and put her in it!! (Narcissus drowns looking at *her* reflection in the water, if I remember correctly!) *G*

265 posted on 09/27/2001 11:11:36 PM PDT by Beep
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To: EmmaPeel
A presentation for the Scottish Parliament?
---Can you say HAGgis?
266 posted on 09/27/2001 11:13:06 PM PDT by willyboyishere
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To: lawgirl
Just for you,

Bill Clinton's December 1969 letter to his ROTC Director

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Clinton's December 1969 letter to his ROTC Director

The following is Bill Clinton's December 1969 letter to his ROTC Director, Colonel Eugene Holmes. This text was taken verbatim from "SLICK WILLIE", by Floyd G. Brown. Not a word has been changed.


I am sorry to be so long in writing. I know I promised to let you hear from me at least once a month, and from now on you will, but I have had to have some time to think about this first letter. Almost daily since my return to England I have thought about writing, about what I want to and ought to say.

First, I want to thank you, not just for saving me from the draft, but for being so kind and decent to me last summer, when I was as low as I have ever been. One thing which made the bond we struck in good faith somewhat palatable to me was my high regard for you personally. In retrospect, it seems that the admiration might not have been mutual had you known a little more about me, about my political beliefs and activities. At least you might have thought me more fit for the draft than for ROTC.

Let me try to explain. As you know, I worked for two years in a very minor position on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. I did it for the experience and the salary but also for the opportunity, however small, of working every day against a war I opposed and despised with a depth of feeling I had reserved solely for racism in America before Vietnam. I did not take the matter lightly but studied it carefully, and there was a time when not many people had more information about Vietnam at hand than I did. I have written and spoken and marched against the war. One of the national organizers of the Vietnam Moratorium is a close friend of mine, After I left Arkansas last summer, I went to Washington to work in the national headquarters of the Moratorium, then to England to organize the Americans for the demonstrations Oct. 15 and Nov. 16.

Interlocked with the war is the draft issue, which I did not begin to consider separately until early 1968. For a law seminar Georgetown I wrote a paper on the legal arguments for and against allowing, within the Selective Service System, the classification of selective conscientious objection, for those opposed to participation in a particular war, not simply to "participation in war in any form."

From my work I came to believe that the draft system itself is illegitimate. No government really rooted in limited, parliamentary democracy should have the power to make its citizens fight and kill and die in a war they may oppose, a war which even possibly may be wrong, a war which, in any case, does not involve immediately the peace and freedom of the nation.

The draft was justified in World War II because the life of the people collectively was at stake. Individuals had to fight, if the nation was to survive, for the lives of their countrymen and their way of life. Vietnam is no such case. Nor was Korea an example where, in my opinion, certain military action was justified but the draft was not, for the reasons stated above.

Because of my opposition to the draft and the war, I am in great sympathy with those who are not willing to fight, kill, and maybe die for their country (i.e. the particular policy of a particular government) right or wrong. Two of my friends at Oxford are conscientious objectors. I wrote a letter of recommendation for one of them to his Mississippi draft board, a letter which I am more proud of than anything else I wrote at Oxford last year. One of my roommates is a draft resister who is possibly under indictment and may never be able to go home again. He is one of the bravest, best men I know. That he is considered a criminal is an obscenity.

The decision not to be a resister and the related subsequent decisions were the most difficult of my life. I decided to accept the draft in spite of my beliefs for one reason: to maintain my political viability within the system. For years I have worked to prepare myself for a political life characterized by both practical political ability and concern for rapid social progress. It is a life I still feel compelled to try to lead. I do not think our system of government is by definition corrupt, however dangerous and inadequate it has been in recent years. (The society may be corrupt, but that is not the same thing, and if that is true we are all finished anyway.)

When the draft came, despite political convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war I had been fighting against, and that is why I contacted you. ROTC was the one way left in which I could possibly, but not positively, avoid both Vietnam and resistance. Going on with my education, even coming back to England, played no part in my decision to join ROTC. I am back here, and would have been at Arkansas Law School because there is nothing else I can do. In fact, I would like to have been able to take a year out perhaps to teach in a small college or work on some community action project and in the process to decide whether to attend law school or graduate school and how to begin putting what I have learned to use.

But the particulars of my personal life are not nearly as important to me as the principles involved. After I signed the ROTC letter of intent I began to wonder whether the compromise I had made with myself was not more objectionable than the draft would have been, because I had no interest in the ROTC program in itself and all I seemed to have done was to protect myself from physical harm. Also, I began to think I had deceived you, not by lies because there were none but by failing to tell you all the things I'm writing now. I doubt that I had the mental coherence to articulate them then.

At that time, after we had made our agreement and you had sent my 1-D deferment to my draft board, the anguish and loss of my self-regard and self confidence really set in. I hardly slept for weeks and kept going by eating compulsively and reading until exhaustion brought sleep. Finally, on Sept. 12 I stayed up all night writing a letter to the chairman of my draft board, saying basically what is in the preceding paragraph, thanking him for trying to help in a case where he really couldn't, and stating that I couldn't do the ROTC after all and would he please draft me as soon as possible.

I never mailed the letter, but I did carry it on me every day until I got on the plane to return to England. I didn't mail the letter because I didn't see, in the end, how my going in the army and maybe going to Vietnam would achieve anything except a feeling that I had punished myself and gotten what I deserved. So I came back to England to try to make something of this second year of my Rhodes scholarship.

And that is where I am now, writing to you because you have been good to me and have a right to know what I think and feel. I am writing too in the hope that my telling this one story will help you to understand more clearly how so many fine people have come to find themselves still loving their country but loathing the military, to which you and other good men have devoted years, lifetimes, of the best service you could give. To many of us, it is no longer clear what is service and what is disservice, or if it is clear, the conclusion is likely to be illegal.

Forgive the length of this letter. There was much to say. There is still a lot to be said, but it can wait. Please say hello to Col. Jones for me.

Merry Christmas.

Sincerely,
Bill Clinton

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267 posted on 09/27/2001 11:23:16 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas
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To: lawgirl
oops I forgot the URL

click here

268 posted on 09/27/2001 11:24:58 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas
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To: operation clinton cleanup
The tree branch is rather innocuous and only need be registered with the local Arborist or at your option the Sierra Club. The rubber bands were likely taken from one of our chemical plants or rejects from the Trojans factory and probably require no reporting. The tennis balls should be reported to the USLTA (however sunset legislation may have ended this agency). The cans however are another matter as they could be used as potato mashers. Please provide your address so we can send the 120 ATF agents over to check this out. Thank you for your efforts to remain a law abiding citizen.
269 posted on 09/27/2001 11:26:03 PM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: coteblanche
Say what?! Anything nice she said about anybody but herself was only used as a stepping off point to talk about *her!* She was even reluctant to talk about Willy! Kept calling him "my husband." She didn't TALK about how well the President and First Lady are doing. She mentioned it, then launched into a narcissistic speech about *her!* You didn't listen? You didn't hear all the "me, me, ME" crap?! Buy some Q-Tips! I mean -- honestly! I don't mean to be disrespectful, but the only reason everybody noticed that said anything nice AT ALL about the curent administration is because it's so bloody UNusual and UNcharacteristic! But she still glossed over them in a *big* hurry and covered her own personal agenda in depth! (Most of which is known bunk!) Next time -- listen! Listen for the "I, me, my, ours" crap. I promise you; it far outweighs anything else she EVER says. And tonight was no different. Not a bit!
270 posted on 09/27/2001 11:29:31 PM PDT by Beep
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To: coteblanche
Her career is doing just fine.

How can you say that her political career is doing just fine? What evidence is there that her political career is anything but toast at the moment? Do you remember a few months ago when Hilterly was put out that bogus statement about how Bush in just a few months in office had already undone all of the progress (sic) of the last 8 years? Obviously, in classic Clinton style, her political strategy was a very subtle form of argumentum ad hominem. In other words, she was insinuating to the public that Bush, who was still something of an unknown quantity at that point, was basically a bad person who was against social progress. Her whole strategy was built around the hope that people would accept this idea that Bush was basically a bad and uncaring person, without investigating in any detail the underlying policy issues. Right now, W is so popular the DemoRats can' t even afford to risk the appearance of disagreement with him, much less launching any sort of ad hominem attacks, (which is really their "bread and butter" strategy). At this point they can only say nice things about someone who they believe undid their last eight years of work! No one knows what may happen in the future, and almost certainly Bush's popularity can't stay at the historic level where it now is. But nonetheless Bush has made a very favorable impression on the American people, and it is going to be much more difficult in the future to attack him without resorting to evidence and discussing specifics. Consider the "arsenic in the drinking water" canard, which Michael Kelly wrote about recently. Even if and when W's popularity drops again, (possibly to the mid-fifties, the high level where it had been), the DemoRats will be hard pressed to buy these types of thinly veiled personal attacks against Bush, which rely on people being willing to accept without evidence that Bush really isn't a basically decent person. They will be much more inclined to listen to the whole story, for example during the 2004 Presidential debates. Add to this Rudy's soaring popularity, as a Republican who was very nearly the alternative to Hilary. Add to this the fact that the Democrats had never really regrouped after the last Presidential election. No, I agree with the posters who said that the only reason she even went on Letterman was an attempt at damage control.

271 posted on 09/27/2001 11:42:29 PM PDT by dano1
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To: jws3sticks
what an insult to merle haggard (aka 'the hag')
272 posted on 09/27/2001 11:46:54 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: coteblanche
Sorry I don't understand your big words.

Spoken like a true Rat! (Sorry, but if you're gonna set yourself up like that, you have to expect what you get in return!)

273 posted on 09/27/2001 11:48:39 PM PDT by Beep
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To: secondamendmentkid
You don't realize how many other posters feelings you hurt with that remark.

Crushing blow, huh? You feeling our pain too?! (I'm on *your* side; mocking the phrase, not the person!) I'm a "newbie," but I am sooooo glad I finally logged on here! The FReepers were recommended to me a while back by a friend of mine, but I only got around to joining here after she was killed. I needed to be somewhere that reminded me of her, and where people would understand and let me talk about her, as well as sharing my views. It's been a total blessing for me! Thanks to all of you!

/end mush Back to PIAPS-bashing! ;-}

274 posted on 09/28/2001 12:05:42 AM PDT by Beep
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To: KsSunflower
How DID you NewYorkers VOTE HER IN?

OINKER. SKAG. HAND-MAIDEN OF SATAN!

BLECHHHH....!

275 posted on 09/28/2001 12:06:59 AM PDT by wayne_shrugged
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To: secondamendmentkid
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(All images from the past couple of weeks)


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276 posted on 09/28/2001 12:09:39 AM PDT by bootyist-monk
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To: SLJP
Who was your friend? I was unaware of a female Freeper that had passed to the GREATER beyond.
277 posted on 09/28/2001 12:11:33 AM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas
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To: coteblanche
There was absolutely nothing to condemn about her appearance on Letterman. That was my only point.

I'm sorry to hear that, because then you have no point! If you couldn't see what she was doing, you are beyond help.

278 posted on 09/28/2001 12:13:07 AM PDT by Beep
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To: omegatoo
I couldn't turn on the TV on the chance that a glimpse of Hillery might accidentally leak into my house

I openly admit I am a hillary-sighting coward. I'm taping Letterman as I type and read this thread so I can hit MUTE and keep my eyes on the captions when I replay it. After reading all about this "event," I had to see for myself, but honest to God, I can't stomach that woman live, from New York, or any other city.

279 posted on 09/28/2001 12:20:26 AM PDT by GretchenEE
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To: secondamendmentkid
....her energizer has just crapped out.

BEST line of the night!!! LOL!

280 posted on 09/28/2001 12:21:36 AM PDT by Humidston
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