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Hijacker in Cockpit at Take Off!!!
Fox News
Posted on 09/24/2001 3:13:53 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
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To: Samaritan
Have any of the black boxes survived and did any of those who were able to call their loved ones say, "We have been high-jacked by Arabs"?I heard that their calls said that they were highjacked by Mossad agents disguised as Arabs.
Actually, on the PA plane one caller described them as Iranian looking, but that won't convince you. Got you tinfoil, kudzu-lined hat on?
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posted on
09/24/2001 3:40:57 PM PDT
by
vrwc54
To: Focault's Pendulum
But there hasn't been enough time since they found that fuselage piece for anyone to have recovered and played a tape. Also, if one of the boxes had been recovered it would be one of the big stories of the day.
This story needs better documentation before we can consider it more than Internet rumor.
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posted on
09/24/2001 3:41:31 PM PDT
by
LenS
To: Focault's Pendulum
This information is one more reason not to hassle the airline passengers. Confiscating our fingernail clippers, scissors, and pen knives would have done nothing to avert these attacks, so they should not be confiscating them now. Instead of imposing on the innocent, they need to fix their own problems and exterminate the guilty.
WFTR
Something that Hasn't Changed (Stop Blaming America!).
Bill
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posted on
09/24/2001 3:41:58 PM PDT
by
WFTR
To: freedomnews
Peace loving Muslims could also be the ones that want us dead.
Freepers: Anyone have a news story of what Bin Laden has said about Cliton when Clinton supposedlybombed him?? It will be VERRY interesting if he said NOTHING!
To: LenS
Icelandic flies to both continents.
To: Alberta's Child
Alberta, most of the pilots don't want to carry a weapon, they just want to fly the plane. So lets get them and us plenty of back up with the Sky Marshals and unidentified marksmen or women scattered through out the plane.
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posted on
09/24/2001 3:42:40 PM PDT
by
yoe
(yoe)
To: CheneyChick
If you remember the incident with FedEx Flt 705 .....
There was a horrendous, bloody battle in the cockpit. As I recall both pilot and co-pilot were severely injured and it is a wonder they lived to tell about it. A fellow employee who was a jumpseater attacked them with a spear(?) that is used for scuba diving.
The Tarheel
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posted on
09/24/2001 3:42:45 PM PDT
by
Tarheel
To: Samaritan
The 'black boxes' (actually orange) didn't fare very well. So far, ethnicity hasn't been mentioned in any of the communications that I'm aware of.
Based on past investigations, the 'black boxes' will contain what's politically convenient. Theory aside, the information is often enough omitted or substituted. ValuJet 592 was one such example.
The practice goes back to the early 80's with "Hoot" Gibson's mysterious tumble in the TWA 727. His recorder got erased after he left the aircraft and he was persecuted. It was physically impossible for him to have erased the recorder, given the damage to the aircraft. Yet, history has a 'convenient' account, blaming him for the impossible. My take on Gibson's event was an early rudder-actuator failure. The 737 accidents account for more.
Money dictates history - even in this case.
To: Sidebar Moderator
"As well as reported instances of stolen cockpit keys."
Which in some cases of boeing planes use the same keys. If cars have different keys, why don't planes?
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posted on
09/24/2001 3:44:38 PM PDT
by
marajade
(maraskywalker@earthlink.net)
To: LenS
But there hasn't been enough time since they found that fuselage piece for anyone to have recovered and played a tape. Also, if one of the boxes had been recovered it would be one of the big stories of the day. True. Didn't mean to imply it was from the WTC. I'm not one to spread tin foil hat theories...I have enough trouble sometimes keeping mine on.
To: Ann Archy
[YOU MIGHT FIND THIS INTERESTING -- I POSTED IT LAST NIGHT ON ANOTHER THREAD]
Hey, I say incinerate the bastards, too. But after hearing what that reporter had to say I realized that the U.S. government has been making things up as they go along over the last few years.
The guy had interviewed Osama bin Laden at one of his hideouts in Afghanistan, but you have to remember that this was before Osama had been identified in the U.S. media as a real "public enemy." It was only a matter of months after this interview that Bill Clinton ordered the Tomahawk missile attack in August of 1998 that was supposed to be directed at Osama bin Laden.
What was most amazing was that very soon (maybe hours, or even minutes) after the missile attack, one of Osama's aides called the reporter up in New York. He was not able to reach the reporter directly, but he told the person who answered the phone at the television station that Osama bin Laden had survived the attack. However, he pointed out that the camp and some civilians in a nearby village had sustained some "collateral damage." He also made it clear that everyone in the world knew exactly why this attack had been launched (to divert attention from Clinton's grand jury testimony).
"That is the second most important message I wanted to pass along to you from Osama bin Laden," the aide said, "The most important message for your country is that the war has now begun."
I don't want anyone to take this the wrong way, but I truly believe that the United States would never have been in today's situation if they had simply thrown that f#cker out of office and handed him over for war crimes prosecution when they had a chance. At the risk of sounding like Jerry Falwell, I would say we are now paying the price for our nation's complete lack of character.
To: PrivacyChampion
I wouldn't get too confident. The IRA's recent involvement in Columbia and the Japanese Red Army's suicide attack in Israel back in the 70's are reminders that terrorist groups have been known to help unrelated groups with violence. Bin Laden's people could always work with the Blame America First crowd among the environmental nuts to find non-Middle Eastern attackers and support personnel. Or among American converts to Islam.
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posted on
09/24/2001 3:46:12 PM PDT
by
LenS
To: LenS
How about no legal pilots from countries known to encourge terrorists? How about an extensive background check for all pilots or training school students. The requirements for sterring bombs in the US ought to be at least as tough as voting!
Comment #54 Removed by Moderator
To: Focault's Pendulum
dozens of uniforms stolen since 1994. Didn't anyone figure out what these stolen uniforms would be used for ??? This should have rung someone's bell long ago.
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posted on
09/24/2001 3:47:50 PM PDT
by
Gracey
To: Lessismore
So we should invest in Icelandic as the neutral and safe airline for transnational flying? *g*
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posted on
09/24/2001 3:48:10 PM PDT
by
LenS
To: yoe
I understand, but the problem is deeper than that. Picture this -- a group of Arabs tries to hijack a plan,
and it turns out that the Sky Marshals on the plane are part of the plot. THAT, my friend, is the depth of the problem we face.
To: Alberta's Child
Fits with the August 22th attack plan. Clinton bombed BL on August 20, 1998.
To: NautiNurse
And every single Boeing cockpit door can be opened with the same key. Anybody know stock symbols for lock and key corporations? How about just a simple slide-bolt?
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posted on
09/24/2001 3:49:38 PM PDT
by
jackbill
To: GalFromTheBay
Now we'll be calling for no one in the jump seats! At the very least there should be better security for those in them. No FOREIGNERS in jump seats.
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posted on
09/24/2001 3:49:48 PM PDT
by
Gracey
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