Posted on 09/24/2001 1:12:24 PM PDT by ThinkPlease
Tonight is the beginning of the Evolution Series on PBS. I thought I'd open up some threads of discussion here prior, during and after the telecast of the episodes.
Here's PBS's homepage for the telecast:
And Here's something from the Discovery Institute, who is evidently irritated about turning down free publicity on the telecast. (They were offered time on the final night of the telecast, and turned down PBS.)
I thought you were smarter than that... :-(
Essentially that is what evolution has been saying for 150 years. It is what Darwin said and has been disproven by science since. You evolutionists are pretty good at wisecracks, but how about trying some facts to refute the points being made instead?
Oh another smart aleck remark. Care to give some quotes from the Bible supporting evolution?
Two things. One,infinitesimal does not need to be modified by "approaching zero". Two, the chances of a human giving birth to anything have absolutely nothing to do with natural selection(for that birth). It has to do with what natural selection will have to work with, that is, the random mutations that had to have happened in order to separate humans and chimps. Since mutations are "random" events and they are occurred there is a finite probability that they can occur. (sounds logical doesn't it?) Natural selection merely "remembers" them. The offspring is not required to leave progeny only to be born.
Why in the world would I even attempt that? The Bible is not the source of my knowledge about science.
When did the Bible come a source of knowledge concerning science yesterday or today?
Many are not aware of that, so I was simply being as clear as possible.
Two, the chances of a human giving birth to anything have absolutely nothing to do with natural selection(for that birth). It has to do with what natural selection will have to work with, that is, the random mutations that had to have happened in order to separate humans and chimps. Since mutations are "random" events and they are occurred there is a finite probability that they can occur. (sounds logical doesn't it?)
No, it doesn't. It only sounds logical if you're utterly ignorant of genetics in general, the human genome in particular, and the process of natural selection.
There is essentially zero chance of a human having a chimpanzee offspring. Speciation doesn't occur in a single birth, and the subject remains irrelevant to natural selection.
No, it isn't. Please stop flaunting your ignorance of the theory of evolution.
However, although everything in the Bible is inspired, not all is revealed. As I study the Bible, I try to understand the context in which it was written, as well as the type of literary form used (allegory, parable, oration, etc).
I believe the Hebrew authors, while divinely inspired, were free to choose their literary forms to convey God's message of revelation and salvation. The forms were certainly conditioned by their time and culture. The story of the origins of the earth and primeval man were expressed in terms designed to reveal to the people of that time the majesty of God's creation, not as a scientific textbook.
I believe that God's gave man a wonderful gift of intellect, but it is necessarily limited. After all, He is God, and man is not. Man will always use that intellect to try to learn more and more about the origins of life, and I am as curious as the next person.
However, I believe that perfect understanding will only come when I am at one with God after my time here on earth. In the meantime, faith is needed, and freely given upon request, for me to be entirely comfortable with the belief that that there can be no contradiction between truth and God.
Although I enjoyed the PBS show this evening, I do wish that the producers of the show would have, at least once, said that all they showed is a hypothesis, not proven fact.
You and the rest of the Creationists can chant this mantra a million times but it won't change the FACT that Evolution is a PROVEN science.
Post your facts that support "intelligent design" as a theory. You can't, because ID is a tissue of lies.
Say, did you ever find those quotations from the USSC that required the teaching of evolution?
Reno is the one with the penis.
No scientific theories are proven facts. Scientific theories are built from proven facts. Evolution is as scientifically valid as gravitation, relativity, the laws of thermodynamics, etc. They are all hypotheses to explain a body of facts, and generally accepted by the scientific community as the hypotheses that best explain those facts. Hypotheses cannot ever be "proven."
If thats what you got out of what I've written in this thread, I can see that you are a very confused one-armed boat rower. Only those who don't mind going in circles will hop in your boat.
But of course we cannot find the bones for these transitions because when the species were evolving they were vacationing in Hawaii according to Stephen Jay Gould. Evolution seems to always happen where no one will see it! Must be a creationist conspiracy at work here. They have been making sure that the bones of no intermediate species would survive by throwing them in volcanoes as soon as the animals die.
They have all these fossils. And fossils support the theory of evolution.
There's no such thing as an "intermediate species." This is a meaningless phrase. Again, please stop flaunting your ignorance.
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