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One Nation....Under Different Gods?
Crosswalk ^ | September 19, 2001 | Janet Chismar

Posted on 09/24/2001 9:07:47 AM PDT by LoneGreenEyeshade

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To: GeekDejure

Have you LOST your Freeping mind?????


41 posted on 09/24/2001 10:21:21 AM PDT by clee1
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To: Knitebane
"Christianity grew up."

And, prayfully, is still growing and getting to know God, rather than "religion."

42 posted on 09/24/2001 10:22:32 AM PDT by LoneGreenEyeshade
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To: clee1
"To:GeekDejure

Have you LOST your Freeping mind?????

" (Sorry, I am a novice at HTML and still do not know how to change font size or color to correctly duplicate your post. :~))

MAYBE IF WE IGNORE HIM / HER (WHO KNOWS THESE DAYS), HE/SHE WILL GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!

43 posted on 09/24/2001 10:27:51 AM PDT by LoneGreenEyeshade
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To: Precisian
By which I mean, let's only use "ALLAH" when referring to the Islamic Faith, and "Christ" when referring to the Christian Fatih.

Or rather the Holy Trinity - God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit one in essence.

44 posted on 09/24/2001 10:32:02 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: LoneGreenEyeshade
Muslims proudly claim him as the direct ancestor of the Arabs and therefore of Mohammed.

This is the reason why many Muslims embrace the racially-tinged philosophy of panArabism.

45 posted on 09/24/2001 10:32:28 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Precisian
Thanks for the flag and the link.
46 posted on 09/24/2001 10:35:28 AM PDT by the_doc
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To: Knitebane, Dataman
That may be true now, but any Jew living in the Holy Roman Empire a few centuries ago would not be able to agree with you. Because they would be dead.

You could not be more wrong, KB.

The vast majority of Europe's Jews lived and worked in the Holy Roman Empire until it was broken up in the early 1900s.

The Jewish communities of Hungary, Austria, Galicia and Bohemia were subjected to random localized persecutions from time to time (once every 150 years or so) but these communities were vibrant and thriving at the time Napoleon broke up the Empire and were still strong and vital up until 1936.

Jews were permanently banned from England for centuries - they were never expelled by the emperors.

47 posted on 09/24/2001 10:40:53 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Dataman
Lots of people define "the will of God" lots of different ways. If these people think it means "killing unbelievers" well, they hardly have a corner on THAT market, do they?
49 posted on 09/24/2001 10:49:19 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: LoneGreenEyeshade
Guess the fault could be how one interprets "submission" and to which "God."

It is true that the extremists interpret it in a very sick and perverted way. But that is hardly news.

The problem as I see it is that the actions of a tiny minority of Muslims is used to represent the teachings of the entire religion. I think that's wrong.

50 posted on 09/24/2001 10:50:50 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: wideawake
Thank you for the info. I did a little research too and found this:

"And as for Ishmael...I will make him fruitful and will multiply him exceedingly....BUT my covenant will I establish with Isaac... (Genesis 17:20)

One of his decendents later was stated to serve Baal as an enemy of Judah. And so the story continues....

51 posted on 09/24/2001 10:52:07 AM PDT by LoneGreenEyeshade
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To: gfactor
I think that neither is true. Rather, some "adherents" to both religions throughout history have used their own perverse form of their teachings to justify horror.

That says very little about religion, and a great deal about human nature.

52 posted on 09/24/2001 10:52:19 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: enderwiggnz
maybe because "submission" to anything removes your God-Given Free Will

Quite the opposite. No one can take your free will away from you, not even God. But you can USE that will to submit to God, of your own choice.

That act is the most sublime in human existence.

53 posted on 09/24/2001 10:53:39 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: jejones
You're making an elementary linguistic mistake. Cognates in different languages often have different meanings.

Shalom in Hebrew and salaam in Arabic are cognates indeed. But Hebrew and Arabic are no more alike than French and English - what does "preservative" mean in English and what does preservatif mean in French, for example?

In English it's a food additive - in French it's a birth control device. Yet they come from the exact same root: "preserve"/preserver with the same root meaning.

54 posted on 09/24/2001 10:55:21 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: LoneGreenEyeshade
Thanks for this article, LoneGreenEyeshade. It is excellent.

This is a problem that Christians MUST deal with. There is too much political correctness existing with Christians these days. We are not one in the Spirit with all other religions, and somehow the differences mustn't be ignored for the sake of unity. YET, we are all one nation---We are all Americans. In that sense, we can unite.

A sticky wicket.

55 posted on 09/24/2001 10:57:48 AM PDT by hopefulpilgrim
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To: LoneGreenEyeshade,Jerry_M
Jerry is the Pastor among us,perhaps he can tell us for sure

..It was always my understanding that it was the beginning of the Arab people..however in the last few years I have heard Islam traced to Jacob and Essau...

It is interesting to note that in the Muslim "bible" it is Ishmael ,not Issac that Abram was told to sacrifice and it was Ishmael that submits to His Fathers authority and climbs on that altar (interesting that Islam means submission huh?) what say ye Jerry??

56 posted on 09/24/2001 10:58:20 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Precisian
Thanks for bump and the links!
57 posted on 09/24/2001 10:59:01 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Illbay
"the actions of a tiny minority of Muslims is used to represent the teachings of the entire religion. I think that's wrong."

Wholeheartedly agree. Although, as a Christian, I do not agree with Islam but rather see it as the branch that was cast off to be the enemy of God's chosen, I leave judgment to God. Personally do not want the responsibility as it would be way too much for me to bear. I agree that our war against terrorism is not against Islam, but against the terrorists and those that help them. Those individuals who take it upon themselves to take retribution against any one individual or group merely because of their religious beliefs or ethnic background are terrorists themselves and should be treated as such.

OUR WAR IS AGAINST TERRORISM AND FOR LIBERTY, and should not be against Islam and for Christianity. But, because the terrorists acted for the sake of Islam as they understood it, I believe we need to understand their perspective in order to understand the enemy. Unfortunately, the terrorists themselves created a "Holy War."

The problem is in seperating the terrorist Islam from the non-terrorist Islam---as far as defense of our Nation is concerned.

58 posted on 09/24/2001 11:04:16 AM PDT by LoneGreenEyeshade
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To: LoneGreenEyeshade
Christian commentator Cal Thomas noted: "While it is important not to condemn all Muslims because of [the] terrorist attack, it is also crucial to understand the mindset and intentions of those who hate us.

"America's enemies know us better than we know them," Thomas said. "They take their faith in a false god more seriously than we take our faith in the true one. Be careful with what you see and hear."

I couldn't agree with Thomas more. Our government needs to understand AND take seriously the mindset of these terrorists. It's no wonder they are spred out all over our country, freely planning and executing their destructive goals. Perhaps our government will now be forced to know your enemy. . . information is power.

A note about Lee Strobel:  He is a God-fearing man, a superb pastor/teacher, and a fine person as well. One can see how much he cares about the lost by lovingly and boldly bringing the message of sin and repentance from the pulpit.

Lee's salvation testimony tracing his journey from being one of the top reporters at the Chicago Tribune to becoming a child of God is not one to be missed. A couple of his more famous books are: "The Case for Christ: A Journalist's Personal Investigation of the Evidence for Jesus," and "The Case for Faith."

What a man of God he is!

59 posted on 09/24/2001 11:06:34 AM PDT by PatiPie
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To: LoneGreenEyeshade
"But Christ sees Muslims as lost and it is our responsibility as His followers to reach out sensitively without compromising our own faith. We need to remember the church is an organization that exists primarily to take care of nonmembers."

How does he know that since there were no Muslims on the planet in Christ's time. Is this another guy who communicates with supernatural beings? - Tom

60 posted on 09/24/2001 11:07:19 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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